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22 Mar 2017, 7:09 am

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As a side note, I fully expected Dianne Feinstein to be extremely old. I had no memory of who she is or what she looked like, but I said to myself, "I bet she is in John McCain's age range".

Grow up Ezra. You seem to be shocked that things take place over time. Perhaps when you get a little older you will realize that instant gratification does not work for everything.

Lol Didn't see the rest of this. But Era raises a good point. Strom Thurmond was senator till the age of 100. A senile old segregationist voting on bills and deciding what direction the country went in. To me that doesn't seem like a good thing. A legislature needs experience but also energetic and competent people.


It wasn't about capability. It was more of whoever has been clinging on since the stone age with stone age ideologies should know when it's time to pass the torch. Politics should be about progress and fresh ideas, not someone in their 37th term in office.

Plus quite honestly, whenever there's a story like this, the person involved always seems to be older than WWII. I'm not sure even what it means, but that's always been the case.

I don't totally agree with that. Values can deteriorate for the worse. Hitler almost did not become Chancellor because an old WWI veteran who had experienced all the horrors, Von Hindenburg said no. If he didn't Hitler would have found becoming chancellor a piece of cake.



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22 Mar 2017, 7:16 am

Feinstein and McCain are the greatest arguments for term limits there is



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22 Mar 2017, 7:23 am

Shahunshah wrote:
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As a side note, I fully expected Dianne Feinstein to be extremely old. I had no memory of who she is or what she looked like, but I said to myself, "I bet she is in John McCain's age range".

Grow up Ezra. You seem to be shocked that things take place over time. Perhaps when you get a little older you will realize that instant gratification does not work for everything.

Lol Didn't see the rest of this. But Era raises a good point. Strom Thurmond was senator till the age of 100. A senile old segregationist voting on bills and deciding what direction the country went in. To me that doesn't seem like a good thing. A legislature needs experience but also energetic and competent people.


It wasn't about capability. It was more of whoever has been clinging on since the stone age with stone age ideologies should know when it's time to pass the torch. Politics should be about progress and fresh ideas, not someone in their 37th term in office.

Plus quite honestly, whenever there's a story like this, the person involved always seems to be older than WWII. I'm not sure even what it means, but that's always been the case.

I don't totally agree with that. Values can deteriorate for the worse. Hitler almost did not become Chancellor because an old WWI veteran who had experienced all the horrors, Von Hindenburg said no. If he didn't Hitler would have found becoming chancellor a piece of cake.


So John McCain is Von Hindenburg to Trump as Hitler. Or something like that. The historical Hitler analogies seem to know no bounds, there's always a fresh one around the corner.



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22 Mar 2017, 7:37 am

AP: AP Exclusive: Manafort had plan to benefit Putin government

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Manafort has been a leading focus of the U.S. intelligence investigation of Trump's associates and Russia, according to a U.S. official. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the investigation were confidential. Meanwhile, federal criminal prosecutors became interested in Manafort's activities years ago as part of a broad investigation to recover stolen Ukraine assets after the ouster of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych there in early 2014. No U.S. criminal charges have ever been filed in the case.



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22 Mar 2017, 7:49 am

No proof whatsoever about something that they claim happened almost 12 years ago, par the course it seems in this desperate witch hunt. There are a lot of people that have lobbied on behalf of foreign governments, nothing will come out of it because they don't want to open that can of worms on themselves since a lot of them have gotten lobbying money from a lot of different places.

Nothing illegal about having any relationship with Russia, geriatric Cold War xenophobia aside anybody that knows anything about rest of the world would see that the US buddies up to real bad guys all the time like Saudi Arabia.



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22 Mar 2017, 7:52 am

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The discussion of age is a rabbit hole. Trump himself is "old."


He is!? You mean like senior citizen old? Why didn't someone tell me this before!?

The pertinent factor in this is, Trump hasn't been in office since before the light bulb was invented. #Context.

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The issue distracted from is that Trump's presidency is crumbling. Everyone knows he is a liar.


No the issue is that people keep recycling the same stuff that's been said a million times already as if it were new.

According to the sore loser desperate left, Trump's presidency has been on the brink of impeachment since November 9th.

There's nothing new about any of this. It's not as old as a washed up dinosaur like Feinstein - but it's getting there.



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22 Mar 2017, 8:01 am

"This is it, it's over for Trump"

I don't think even the 'birther' people were ever as delusional or stupid to actually think something would come out of it but Democrats are true believers in their own nonsense & keep spilling their spaghetti everywhere almost daily.



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22 Mar 2017, 8:09 am

According to an unnamed US official, the information was received on condition of anonymity because......

That's how the entire Trump + Russia investigation has played out since the very beginning.

Still absolutely nothing new - just back-to-square-one reruns.

How many times is the anonymous source secret info on the condition of anonymity because of the need of secrecy routine going to replay itself, before someone says, "Now wait just one damn MFing minute!" Samuel Jackson style?

It's gotten beyond ridiculous and way past absurd.



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22 Mar 2017, 8:17 am

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According to an unnamed US official, the information was received on condition of anonymity because......

That's how the entire Trump + Russia investigation has played out since the very beginning.

Still absolutely nothing new - just back-to-square-one reruns.

How many times is the anonymous source secret info on the condition of anonymity because of the need of secrecy routine going to replay itself, before someone says, "Now wait just one damn MFing minute!" Samuel Jackson style?

It's gotten beyond ridiculous and way past absurd.


Dems uncritically take any ridiculous Trump smear as gospel truth while feigning outrage at Trump's 'unsubstantiated' claims, not very smart or honest people!



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22 Mar 2017, 8:21 am

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According to an unnamed US official, the information was received on condition of anonymity because......

That's how the entire Trump + Russia investigation has played out since the very beginning.

Still absolutely nothing new - just back-to-square-one reruns.

How many times is the anonymous source secret info on the condition of anonymity because of the need of secrecy routine going to replay itself, before someone says, "Now wait just one damn MFing minute!" Samuel Jackson style?

It's gotten beyond ridiculous and way past absurd.


Dems uncritically take any ridiculous Trump smear as gospel truth while feigning outrage at Trump's 'unsubstantiated' claims, not very smart or honest people!

This comment has no purpose other than to call Democrats stupid and dishonest. How does that differ from calling Trump supporters bigots?


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22 Mar 2017, 8:33 am

exposing hypocrisy, duh

stop believing in fake news



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22 Mar 2017, 9:04 am

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Just to make matters worse for the trump cheer squad

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/lea ... ac3199b730

ONE of the most senior members of the US Senate has issued a stunning prediction — that Donald Trump will soon resign from the presidency.
Californian senator and Trump opponent Dianne Feinstein also hinted she knows more than she can say “right now” but believed he’s going to “get himself out of office soon”.
Ms Feinstein, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, hinted the President would quit before he’s forced from office.


Is this stunning prediction supposed to be something new?

Predictions of him not really wanting to be President and planning on resigning or getting himself impeached or whatever is something I've already seen and heard umpteen times.

There's also a number of people claiming to have exclusive inside knowledge, secret sources, secret tapes, secret documents etc.

All this stuff has been played out to such an extent in such a short amount of time, we are already getting reruns.

Next media bombshell: Trump caught on tape saying something disgusting on a bus!

Maybe if certain desperate people would stop gobbling up this repetitive nonsense and start calling BS, the media would stop cranking out so much worthless crap.


When he entered the race now almost 2 years ago, they said the whole thing was not serious, just an ego trip, or to market his brand. Now almost 2 years of Trump is going to fall predictions can see you why I am extremely cynical? As for Feinstein put up or shut up otherwise I have no reason to think it is just more of the endless deluded wishful thinking that has gotten us to this point.

NT's and thier non pattern thinking(LOL)


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22 Mar 2017, 10:43 am

EzraS wrote:
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The discussion of age is a rabbit hole. Trump himself is "old."


He is!? You mean like senior citizen old? Why didn't someone tell me this before!?

The pertinent factor in this is, Trump hasn't been in office since before the light bulb was invented. #Context.

androbot01 wrote:
The issue distracted from is that Trump's presidency is crumbling. Everyone knows he is a liar.


No the issue is that people keep recycling the same stuff that's been said a million times already as if it were new.

According to the sore loser desperate left, Trump's presidency has been on the brink of impeachment since November 9th.

There's nothing new about any of this. It's not as old as a washed up dinosaur like Feinstein - but it's getting there.

Well there is certainly nothing new that you have to offer. You keep saying things have been said before. Why is that relevant?



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22 Mar 2017, 12:05 pm

androbot01 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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The discussion of age is a rabbit hole. Trump himself is "old."


He is!? You mean like senior citizen old? Why didn't someone tell me this before!?

The pertinent factor in this is, Trump hasn't been in office since before the light bulb was invented. #Context.

androbot01 wrote:
The issue distracted from is that Trump's presidency is crumbling. Everyone knows he is a liar.


No the issue is that people keep recycling the same stuff that's been said a million times already as if it were new.

According to the sore loser desperate left, Trump's presidency has been on the brink of impeachment since November 9th.

There's nothing new about any of this. It's not as old as a washed up dinosaur like Feinstein - but it's getting there.

Well there is certainly nothing new that you have to offer. You keep saying things have been said before. Why is that relevant?


I keep saying things I've said before regarding things that have been said before? Gee I wonder how that could have happened? Pondering... I almost have this solved... give me a minute... almost there....

And I'm disappointed I didn't get rebuked for calling Fienstien a washed up dinosaur.



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22 Mar 2017, 8:22 pm

Devin Nunes, R, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee destroyed his credibility today trying to provide cover for DJT. He confirmed the theory I had previously favored, that campaign associates' communications were intercepted as part of legal foreign intelligence operations. Then he said, but it wasn't Russians. That doesn't make it clear who they were communicating with, and why they were communicating with people whom we have under surveillance.

Maybe he's telling the truth, but the other committee members seem irked by his public declaration of a conclusion in a matter they haven't finished investigating.


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22 Mar 2017, 8:45 pm

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Devin Nunes, R, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee destroyed his credibility today trying to provide cover for DJT. He confirmed the theory I had previously favored, that campaign associates' communications were intercepted as part of legal foreign intelligence operations. Then he said, but it wasn't Russians. That doesn't make it clear who they were communicating with, and why they were communicating with people whom we have under surveillance.

Maybe he's telling the truth, but the other committee members seem irked by his public declaration of a conclusion in a matter they haven't finished investigating.


It's not legal to collect and retain surveillance on someone not being investigated, this information which should of never been collected being disseminated among the Obama administration implies a pretty serious crime to me. These leaks are evidence that somebody broke the law already and using another investigation as a roundabout way of surveiling your political opponents would be highly illegal.