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23 Dec 2008, 12:07 pm

Where can I buy an "I speak for myself" shirt?



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26 Dec 2008, 7:10 am

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How about Autism Aloud? Avoiding the word matching should neuter their cases without being too far from the intent. This bullying tactic is sad and alarming... Any ideas on how to counter?


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31 Dec 2008, 10:53 am

I feel troubled and disgusted after having viewed the film "Autism Everyday", the was a long series of mothers talking about how the felt about having a young autist as a child.

I would love to know what the children when they are in their late teens will have to say, a child will not remain a child for ever. One day it is hoped that they will grow up to become adults.

The part of the film when a mother explains how she might commit murder by driving a car off a bridge with her child in it is deeply offensive, I hold the view that it is wrong to speculate about the imminent death of a disabled NV child in front of the child. For another example see the case of Anne McDonald, http://www.newint.org/issue233/keynote.htm


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31 Dec 2008, 2:33 pm

I find that spoof hilarious and I also think an organization about autism or AS etcetera should be run by people with the same disorder/s.


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31 Dec 2008, 4:09 pm

I support Autism Speaks, send them donations when I can and receive their informative newsletter. I find much of what they advocate to be supportive to the alleged autistic "cause" of fair representation.

I do not believe the same kind of organization could exist if founded and run solely by people on the spectrum- or even half. If this were the case, such an organization would already exist. As I've posted elsewhere, I wouldn't want someone incapable of playing the political game representing me in the the political arena. It's suicide.



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16 Apr 2009, 9:33 pm

:roll: I will never ever donate to Autism Speaks. Why in the world would anyone want to cure Autism? Why would someone want to change me?


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18 Apr 2009, 12:06 am

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I support Autism Speaks, send them donations when I can and receive their informative newsletter. I find much of what they advocate to be supportive to the alleged autistic "cause" of fair representation.

I do not believe the same kind of organization could exist if founded and run solely by people on the spectrum- or even half. If this were the case, such an organization would already exist. As I've posted elsewhere, I wouldn't want someone incapable of playing the political game representing me in the the political arena. It's suicide.


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19 Apr 2009, 5:55 pm

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the people of Autism Speaks are the kind of people who would give people shock treatments and labotomy treatments in the 1950s.
Yes, and they suck so many people into donating money to them thinking that they actually care about helping those with autism.


It is more like they are interested in maintaining their salary while under the 501c3 umbrella and corporate veil, sheltering their agenda behind business law... Like the media, they have na agenda nad it is not about being primarely helping those with ASD but rather using this as a means to justify themselves in getting rich while maximizing their bottom line (profit margin) of their 501c3 tax exempt non profit corporation...

follow the money trail and it shows a differnt picture...

They are using autism as a means to give themselves a career, job security by being 'experts' in their apparent cause at our expense... We are only the means of them obtaining their real motives... it is not helping us but rather using us as a means to increase their fundings from people and put $$ in their pockets..

They have to paint a bleak and negative picture about us on the spectrum... waht Goebbels did in Nazi Germany, they need to utilize media and propoganda in order to keep their business model successful...



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22 Jun 2009, 3:43 pm

Stick them in a room with Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh.



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i would pay money to see them executed


*pulls out black notebook and pen* Would you prefer hanging, burning at the stake, lethal injection or death by firing squad? *whisper* If you really want them to suffer, I can do burning for half price!



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22 Jun 2009, 7:13 pm

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P.S. Does any1 like Naruto


im not a NAruto person-sure there are some inthere. go to the tv forum : 8)


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01 Jul 2009, 11:56 am

Personally, I've never been fond of organizations where NT's feel that autistic people should be seen as having a disease of sorts whereby, a cure is needed in our case..Yeah Right!! :twisted: Anyways, I'd like to see where the entire autistic spectrum is properly represented ..



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06 Sep 2009, 3:01 am

Strapples wrote:
Roxas_XIII wrote:
kleodimus wrote:
i would pay money to see them executed


*pulls out black notebook and pen* Would you prefer hanging, burning at the stake, lethal injection or death by firing squad? *whisper* If you really want them to suffer, I can do burning for half price!


i can also do execution by straps. which would slowly squeeze them till they die :D


for a limited time only we can have them covered in lemon juice and send them into a pit of anacondas, or we could place a bomb inside thier stomach and send them to a "very important autism speaks meeting " with all of the most senior members there :twisted: *these execution services are for autistics only any other sentietns such as neuro typicals, dolphins, gorrillas, and otters are not permitted to use this service, results may vary*


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06 Sep 2009, 4:25 am

it is a little like the ACLU being run by KKK members... but I digress...


parody is completely protected under the law ("fair use" provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act). Copyright goes out the window when you deal with parody. and you are not required under law to get permission to parody. and the Supreme Court upholds this provided that the parody is "the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works."

Examples?

Louis Vuitton Malletier, S.A. v. Haute Diggity Dog, LLC, 507 F.3d 252 ("Louis Vuitton")

Fisher v. Dees

Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc.

Suntrust v. Houghton Mifflin

Falwell has lost 2 parody lawsuits (one against Flynt and one against Cohn)

Family Guy has been sued 3-5 times (and won all of them)

South Park has been sued repeatedly (and won all)


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07 Sep 2009, 5:57 pm

You have all taken the first step toward action: Stating the problem, and a possible course of action to fix it.

BUT DO NOT SIMPLY POST SOMETHING AND HOPE SOME TRILLIONAIRE READS IT AND SYMPATHIZES!

If anything is going to change, WE have to do it. You have all shown your desire to topple Autism Speaks' propoganda. So let's take another step.

Step 2: Action
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We must further the suggested ideas by implementing them. Because I can guarantee you that nobody is as passionate about something you say than you yourself are. So, I believe that we should all donate money to a respectable, reputable, and trusted member of the autistic community, perhaps someone from WP. Of course not everyone can financialy do this, but who knows? Maybe enough money can be gathered to start an organization of our own. I mean, do you think that all of a sudden, one day, someone found $1,000,000,000 lying on the street and decided to create an organisation called Autism Speaks the same day? No. It started as an idea. We have the idea, and possibly means of getting funds. "What about support from the neuro-diverse population?" you may ask. Well, if you hadn't noticed, this topic is posted on a website called wrongplanet.net. There are thousands of members who would be more than eager to give their support provided the chance. You do the math.

And believe me, it's not as impossible or unlikely as it sounds. In fact, WP and other similar sites, if combined, could most likely accomplish the task of starting a new official organization with ease. I would know, as I'm a member of a charity organization (sort of charity, it's really basically a corporation on a small scale, like a group of people) called the Woodlawn High Band Boosters Organization. It is an official organization, meaning it's recognized officialy by the government. It doesn't even take many people to start something big. Both Apple and Windows started out as two guys working in a garage (or basement in one case). Now they are huge.

I know that you probably are reading this and are thinking, "Man, this guy is so naive," or "Yeah right, like we could actually do that." But I swear to you, it can be done, but it never will be done until someone makes the first attempt.


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07 Sep 2009, 7:53 pm

SPARTAN-113 wrote:
You have all taken the first step toward action: Stating the problem, and a possible course of action to fix it.

BUT DO NOT SIMPLY POST SOMETHING AND HOPE SOME TRILLIONAIRE READS IT AND SYMPATHIZES!

If anything is going to change, WE have to do it. You have all shown your desire to topple Autism Speaks' propoganda. So let's take another step.

Step 2: Action
___________
We must further the suggested ideas by implementing them. Because I can guarantee you that nobody is as passionate about something you say than you yourself are. So, I believe that we should all donate money to a respectable, reputable, and trusted member of the autistic community, perhaps someone from WP. Of course not everyone can financialy do this, but who knows? Maybe enough money can be gathered to start an organization of our own. I mean, do you think that all of a sudden, one day, someone found $1,000,000,000 lying on the street and decided to create an organisation called Autism Speaks the same day? No. It started as an idea. We have the idea, and possibly means of getting funds. "What about support from the neuro-diverse population?" you may ask. Well, if you hadn't noticed, this topic is posted on a website called wrongplanet.net. There are thousands of members who would be more than eager to give their support provided the chance. You do the math.

And believe me, it's not as impossible or unlikely as it sounds. In fact, WP and other similar sites, if combined, could most likely accomplish the task of starting a new official organization with ease. I would know, as I'm a member of a charity organization (sort of charity, it's really basically a corporation on a small scale, like a group of people) called the Woodlawn High Band Boosters Organization. It is an official organization, meaning it's recognized officialy by the government. It doesn't even take many people to start something big. Both Apple and Windows started out as two guys working in a garage (or basement in one case). Now they are huge.

I know that you probably are reading this and are thinking, "Man, this guy is so naive," or "Yeah right, like we could actually do that." But I swear to you, it can be done, but it never will be done until someone makes the first attempt.

I love the idea. One thing we all can do is use facebooks vote for a cause and put our vote to something other then austim speaks thats saddly made the top 32 cut. I've also been posting why even with a austic child I will never give them a penny. I'm not bashing or even naming then directly in most of my posts just stating a few fact on why your money would be far better used somewere else. I'm hoping this will keep me from being sued but I'm looking forward to the letter from the numbnuts they imploy to scary little girls.



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07 Sep 2009, 9:09 pm

CRD wrote:
SPARTAN-113 wrote:
You have all taken the first step toward action: Stating the problem, and a possible course of action to fix it.

BUT DO NOT SIMPLY POST SOMETHING AND HOPE SOME TRILLIONAIRE READS IT AND SYMPATHIZES!

If anything is going to change, WE have to do it. You have all shown your desire to topple Autism Speaks' propoganda. So let's take another step.

Step 2: Action
___________
We must further the suggested ideas by implementing them. Because I can guarantee you that nobody is as passionate about something you say than you yourself are. So, I believe that we should all donate money to a respectable, reputable, and trusted member of the autistic community, perhaps someone from WP. Of course not everyone can financialy do this, but who knows? Maybe enough money can be gathered to start an organization of our own. I mean, do you think that all of a sudden, one day, someone found $1,000,000,000 lying on the street and decided to create an organisation called Autism Speaks the same day? No. It started as an idea. We have the idea, and possibly means of getting funds. "What about support from the neuro-diverse population?" you may ask. Well, if you hadn't noticed, this topic is posted on a website called wrongplanet.net. There are thousands of members who would be more than eager to give their support provided the chance. You do the math.

And believe me, it's not as impossible or unlikely as it sounds. In fact, WP and other similar sites, if combined, could most likely accomplish the task of starting a new official organization with ease. I would know, as I'm a member of a charity organization (sort of charity, it's really basically a corporation on a small scale, like a group of people) called the Woodlawn High Band Boosters Organization. It is an official organization, meaning it's recognized officialy by the government. It doesn't even take many people to start something big. Both Apple and Windows started out as two guys working in a garage (or basement in one case). Now they are huge.

I know that you probably are reading this and are thinking, "Man, this guy is so naive," or "Yeah right, like we could actually do that." But I swear to you, it can be done, but it never will be done until someone makes the first attempt.

I love the idea. One thing we all can do is use facebooks vote for a cause and put our vote to something other then austim speaks thats saddly made the top 32 cut. I've also been posting why even with a austic child I will never give them a penny. I'm not bashing or even naming then directly in most of my posts just stating a few fact on why your money would be far better used somewere else. I'm hoping this will keep me from being sued but I'm looking forward to the letter from the numbnuts they imploy to scary little girls.

From what I've gathered, the president of the Autism Self Advocacy Network would probably be more than happy to help in this matter, if someone were able to inform them of our intentions.


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