Alcohol and Substance Abuse Counselling Thread

Post Reply New Topic

I just want to go back to how I was before I started but Im not even sure if thats possible anymore
I just wish I could be creative with my photography and music without the stuff.


That's your OUT
Go for it!


wish and want
learn and regret
create and combine
confide and confound
collude and cogitate

And it is a behavioral problem how? that is contrary to what I learned in my college psychology classes. Also if it's just a behavioral problem shouldn't it be possible to cure it?

Okay, here's my point. Anxiety is neurological, depression is neurological, but going out to 7-11 and buying a bunch of beer is a behavior. Going to shady streets and buying cocaine is a behavior. There is a slight difference. I am simply pointing out the obvious.

This doesn't contradict the fact that neurology can affect a person's desire to engage in drinking and drugging. I know this from personal experience.

There is a very slight difference and people tend to gloss over it.

Addiction is not the action of going and buying drugs.

Well, yes obviously, but you get my point. We are debating semantics now.

My point was that I have tried AA and it is bullshit. There really are no adequate answers for people suffering from addiction, unless you know something I don't? I'm not trying to be hostile, you are 100% correct with your remark... but obviously you must know what my point is. My point is what is a person supposed to stop drinking other than stop drinking??? There are no meds for it obviously. A person simply has to decide on their own, I am done with this s**t.

no I don't really see your point about it being behavioral because I still don't see how addiction is behavioral....especially depending on the addiction, some drugs cause physical dependency in which case its much much more than behavior, obviously the body would be tricked into thinking it needs the drug and it might very well now need it for some function.....so yeah if anything its much more neurological than behavioral.

But yeah I am somewhat addicted to cigarettes, I mean some people are much worse than I am......but there actually are medications used to help treat some addictions, not saying it would work for everyone but there are things that can help. But yeah if someone wants to stop drinking I won't argue that they are going to have to be the one that wants to stop drinking......then I again I don't quite understand the need for the extreme of either drinking all the time or not having a single drop of alcohol for the rest of ones life. I mean it is also possible to you know slow down on the drinking....but I guess I can see how if someone really has an issue with it drinking even on occasion might tempt them back into old habits.

I'm kind of starting to wonder do I drink because I want to or because I need to(or feel like I need to)? and do I really even care either way?

I think
I actually think the action of going and buying drugs is A Really Strong addiction
It's terrifying in it's own right
but when it's over and you get home and (if you get home) you can let the numbness embrace
I can remember times when I did not want to take drugs at all
but I did go out and solicit them, purely for human interaction
Loneliness... it's a Motherf***er of a drug to kick

Addiction is when you 'need' a drug(either psychological addiction, or the ones that cause physical addiction)....buying drugs does not nessisarily mean you are addicted to them, that's what I was trying to point out. I personally have not reached any point were I don't want to take drugs at all and am just participating for human interaction. But lonliness is difficult, my issue is I feel lonely even around people so I can't say I am never trying to numb the lonliness.

^uhh...damn I feel I was coming off as kinda blunt, honestly I am not quite as in control as I'd like to think....so I guess I was trying to over-compensate or something with my text book/internet research. so for what its worth I apologize for being blunt

I caved, why? Do I even want to or is it because I need to? f**k, I just want out.

I finally did away with my pill pusher's contact info, so I'm all set there. However, the lure of the fact that heroin is 10x cheaper than oxycodone lingers in the back of my mind.

Trying to do the same. I've read somewhere that a cities pollution affects your lungs more then 5 cigs a day.

Heavenly abyss (sort of) has a point. The ritual associated with the drug is part of the addiction. I've heard that even knowledgeable morphine chemists see their cooking as a "japanese tea ceremony" kind of thing.

Well I don't know anything about that, my opiate experiences consist of the few times I've been hooked up with vicodin. As for cannabis though I would say I do tend to look at the buds and admire the quality and such, maybe smell it to get kind of a pre-effect(I don't know if non-cannabis smokers get this from the smell of weed) then eventually grind it up and smoke it. Not quite a japanese tea ceremony though.

As to tabaco addiction the pills for it reduce the urge. For me the habit of going out for a smoke out do my will power all the time. It has been made worce by substatuting one drug for an other.
Traided tobaco for opiates and cafen for alcohol. But still want the others all the time.