Thanksgiving.....

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I hate to piss on your parade guys but facts are facts.

I really like the food; I don't think too much about the historical significance. Never found the pilgrims particularly exciting.

There aren't too many people in the world living on places that weren't obtained by murder and genocide, maybe the Eskimos. Those indians that met the pilgrims, how did they get control of that piece of land? I imagine they took it from somebody else.

I can't comprehend the concept of thanksgiving. Sure, there's a lot of people worse off than me, so I'm supposed to be grateful to god for his mercy because he did that to them instead of me?

Anyway, I love the combination of turkey and stuffing and cranberry sauce.

No, because America was invaded and is still occupied by the offspring of those invading people.

Germany killed their own people, then their neighbors, but remain to this day within the same borders as when it all started.



I have no connection with the pilgrims that I know of... I was born in England to a British Mother. Then I was kidnapped under the ruse of adoption and smuggled across the Atlantic by OceanLiner (S.S.America).
So I'm innocent of all charges until proven guilty... yet I still don't celebrate Thanksgiving.

I think this'll be my last post here... I suppose we're pissing on their happy holiday post... Sorry!

LOL> Most recent archealogical evidence of early Americans suggest that, in fact, the Americans who were living here at the time of the Pilgrims most likely killed off the people who were here before them. What we today call "Native Americans" (including Eskimos) have DNA markers that genetically trace them back to Siberia. Yet all the earliest American skeletons and skulls are distinctly non-Siberian, but rather show distinct traits unique to ancient Japanese and Pacific Islanders related to ancient Japanese. Moreover, these earliest skeleton share another commonality - they all show evidence of violent deaths by human-made weapons or other similar blunt force injury. Since there are no DNA traces in today's Native American that link them to any early Japanese or Pacific Rim group, archealogists think now that when Siberians began to spread across the Americas, they killed off those earlier Americans rather than assimulating them. Seeing that these Siberian descendants were also frequently violent among themselves, it seems highly plausible. In fact, we know conflict between Siberian-descending tribes, both in North and South America, was so brutal and malicious that at times it was very close to a form of genocide - so we definitely know that Europeans do not have a monopoly on such atrocities.

Another thing to consider is that those earliest AMericans may have been so early that they technically didn't migrate as the Siberian would have, due to how the continents were linked by ice or a shorter distance. For all we know, those earliest Americans, though appearing to be related to ancient Pacific Rim groups, may have been authentically "aboriginal" to the Americas. And if the Siberians did succeed in killing them off completely - something the Europeans weren't able to do to the Siberians - then we know who to hand the genocide crown to, don't we?

Oh suuuuuuure

I see, its ok to exterminate a race as long as its not your own?

ok

Happy Thanksgiving. We will be going to my sisters for Thanksgiving dinner.

Are you going to reincact the events like in pantomime, raping, a killing and a baby stabbing galore. Sort of a variation on the reinactment of say the baby Jesus in the manger at xmas? Perhaps you cancontact the local remanants of those original inhabitants of the land and see if they will join you?

At least have a few tepee burnings perhaps with the tape recorded sounds of women and children screaming from within as they are "burned alive" or do you think they would have been raped first?

"white man speaks with forked tongue".

Happy Thanksgiving All!!

Yes, Happy Thanksgiving Thyme, and everyone. I forgot all about it until someone mentioned it in another thread. We don't celebrate it here in the UK. Pity, it sounds like fun.

Yo manili

Just because somebody's opposing the government, that don't necessarily make them a freedom fighter. Somehow I get the impression your smelly limey ass ain't been around too many native american activists.

Got news for you; they're politicians. Like hockey players, they may be on different teams, but they're all hockey players. The indians learned about politics the way they learned to ride horses. Indians are fun to hang out with, but they ain't no race of innocent angels.

AspieMartian

That's interesting stuff. Are those ancient japanese the ancestors of the ainu? So how did they get to North America? Hard to imagine that humans evolved independently in the western hemisphere.

Unrelated note. The indians I've known get really outraged about what they call the "Bering Strait theory," the idea that their ancestors came from asia. I never understood why.