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How much effort should be made to fit in?

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badtank
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08 Jun 2009, 11:46 pm

Crassus wrote:
badtank wrote:
Like inventor says; "none".
Just tell people how you work, just so they understand and don't get mad or something.
Pretending to be something your not just gives stress and reduces the quality of life.


Sometimes pretending to be something your not gives you stress but increases your quality of life and allows you to achieve something you wouldn't otherwise that results in a less stressful long term. And then there are the times I pretend to be Superman, those times always relieve stress and improve my quality of life.


I guess it might be different per person. Whenever I pretend to be something else I don't feel good and it just tire's me out.



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08 Jun 2009, 11:50 pm

Nobody accepts me, so I have to pretend to be somebody else to fit in certain cliques.



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09 Jun 2009, 1:23 am

Greentea wrote:
My biggest problem is that I never know how much effort I'm supposed to make to fit in, especially at work. Should I be tense all the time and tuning into all body language and trying desperately to say the right thing all the time? Or do I have the right to relax a bit here and there, even if I get outcast as a consequence? Are NTs constantly tense and alert when relating to colleagues at work or are they sometimes relaxed and being spontaneous? I dread having to start at a new job again, because I dread the terrible tension of being constantly on guard what I say, where my eyes look, my body language, etc. And it's also hopeless, because I always end up being fired anyway. All the tension and hard work buys me some time till I'm fired, at best.



I'm surprised, when you're the one usually trying to tell us why it's smart to try to fit in!

Greentea, let me tell ya my perspective based on personal experience: work for yourself.

forget trying to fit in; just do things right and responsibly, and do things to promote your own life. If others don't like it, that's their problem, and much like with most other people, they will have an issue with it.

The majority of NTs I meet seem mostly concerned about shooting off their mouths to other people til they've had their daily cups of Joe, then start shooting their mouths off about "important things" such as the economy, or what have you. Get 'em later at night, it's all about sex and drinking.

If you're so worried about impressing them, then chances are it's not right for you, and you're better off doing something else.



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09 Jun 2009, 2:21 am

Well apparently they can't remember something until they hear it nine times and they don't understand what you mean when you say exactly what you mean. You have to come at everything all sideways and it turns my head sideways to do it. It is like standing on your head though, fun in short controlled situations, do it too long or too often and you get nothing but pain.

Who drinks? That just hit me, people drink so much everywhere around me, that can't be doing great things for their retention abilities. I can drink to fit in and don't even notice a buzz just drinking enough to not get people bugging me about not drinking. I just get dehydrated. You learn tons of stuff that people then have no idea how you know it because heck, if everyone was a little sloshed and it takes hearing something more than once to retain it sober, surely nobody knows what I said last night any better than I do.



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09 Jun 2009, 5:48 am

trying to "fit in" all the time is not worth the effort.



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09 Jun 2009, 5:01 pm

Inventor said it all, his post was positively brilliant. Savant level brilliant.