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28 Jan 2011, 1:09 pm

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28 Jan 2011, 2:04 pm

I see a lot of posts here all saying microsoft=evil. But what if we look on the other side?
when I was little one of my chores was to keep the family PC working. I even hacked it to hide what I was doing on it and to copy passwords so I could spy on my brothers.

You can google how to MOD 360s and find a lot of easy step by steps.

Who here at the age of 8-18 lied about having one of the latest or great things? Said they had this video game or that card or met this person? This day and age it is less who you know and more what you own. and thanks to the Achievement System its now all about the achievements.

I bet the kid did it or had a friend do it. NOW I bet the kid just wishes it all to go away.


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28 Jan 2011, 2:05 pm

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F**king Microsoft :roll:

:lol: Write a better OS, and it's "Hey, you stole our IP!!"


Put the word "book" in any part of it and Facebook will be on you saying the same :lol:


to true :roll:


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28 Jan 2011, 2:09 pm

if you read updated articles, the boy actually DID cheat. he gave someone else his acct info and they used some kind of hack to get him achievements on halo 3. his mother has admitted she knew about it, too.

microsoft has been nice enough to offer them a free month of live gold and a new gamertag to start over with.

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/28/autist ... z1CL0gkJJL


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28 Jan 2011, 2:09 pm

mesona wrote:
I see a lot of posts here all saying microsoft=evil. But what if we look on the other side?
when I was little one of my chores was to keep the family PC working. I even hacked it to hide what I was doing on it and to copy passwords so I could spy on my brothers.


I don't think that's what most people do... I'm pretty much the tech support in my house, too, but I've never hacked the computer to spy on people. If I wanted to, it'd be as simple as running FireSheep on my laptop... But what would be the point of that? :?



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28 Jan 2011, 3:36 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
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I see a lot of posts here all saying microsoft=evil. But what if we look on the other side?
when I was little one of my chores was to keep the family PC working. I even hacked it to hide what I was doing on it and to copy passwords so I could spy on my brothers.


I don't think that's what most people do... I'm pretty much the tech support in my house, too, but I've never hacked the computer to spy on people. If I wanted to, it'd be as simple as running FireSheep on my laptop... But what would be the point of that? :?


I meant Who at that age did not lie about something to make them look cooler. I pointed at the tech support and the spying because I was 10 years old and COULD do it. So the line about him being unable to MOD is wrong and I bring up be the trying to make your self cooler by saying"yeah I did this or that" as a reason WHY he did it.


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28 Jan 2011, 4:20 pm

They called him a cheater because he was a cheater.

http://thautcast.com/drupal5/content/au ... he-cheated

Stephen Toulouse, Microsoft's Director of Police and Enforcement wrote, "The account Zombie Kill67 transferred from the Xbox it is normally seen on, to an Xbox in another city. The account earned several achievements for Halo-3 that can only be done online and in succession. It was clear they were unlocked out of order and offline. Earning successive online achievements out of order and offline is an impossible feat, not due to skill, but due to the technology of the system. It can only be done by modifying the account and faking the achievements."

It's an Xbox Crime that could have only been committed with Julias' gamertag and password.

Now Julias' mother, Jennifer Zdenek, says her son did give his information to a fellow gamer online so he could get what is known as "Recon Armor".

Zdenek says, "My son did give his Gamertag. I did warn him about this but seeing it wasn't a bank password or anything big, it's just a game we didn't worry about it too much and the boy just offered to give him Recon Armor, which he did."

Microsoft says it doesn't matter who the player is, cheaters will be sanctioned.

Jennifer denies Julias meant to cheat, he only wanted that special armor, now she just wants to put it behind them.



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28 Jan 2011, 7:36 pm

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Personally, I think they should ban ALL kids under the age of 16. They are too good and I am tired of having my ass handed to me in Modern Warfare :)


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28 Jan 2011, 8:09 pm

azurecrayon wrote:
if you read updated articles, the boy actually DID cheat. he gave someone else his acct info and they used some kind of hack to get him achievements on halo 3. his mother has admitted she knew about it, too.

microsoft has been nice enough to offer them a free month of live gold and a new gamertag to start over with.

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/28/autist ... z1CL0gkJJL


I had a hard time understanding the article. So is allowing someone using your account cheating?

Was the boy tricked giving out his information because someone wanted to help him?

Did the boy know he was cheating?


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28 Jan 2011, 8:18 pm

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How the heck do you cheat online? Using the cheating device for Xbox games?


Actually, you can cheat online, it's called a JTAG. It let's you run unsigned code and go online with it, but you get console banned within half an hour. I have one, I went online and hosted modded lobbies, an elevator made out of care packages, ftw... :lol:


Sweet. Would love to see that.


Well, here you go, you don't see the elevator until 2:27.
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28 Jan 2011, 8:43 pm

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How the heck do you cheat online? Using the cheating device for Xbox games?


Actually, you can cheat online, it's called a JTAG. It let's you run unsigned code and go online with it, but you get console banned within half an hour. I have one, I went online and hosted modded lobbies, an elevator made out of care packages, ftw... :lol:


Sweet. Would love to see that.


Well, here you go, you don't see the elevator until 2:27.
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Didn't you get banned from Xbox just for doing that? Microsoft seem to be more very power hungry when it comes to people on call of duty, even if they didn't cheat.


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28 Jan 2011, 9:48 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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if you read updated articles, the boy actually DID cheat. he gave someone else his acct info and they used some kind of hack to get him achievements on halo 3. his mother has admitted she knew about it, too.

microsoft has been nice enough to offer them a free month of live gold and a new gamertag to start over with.

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/28/autist ... z1CL0gkJJL


I had a hard time understanding the article. So is allowing someone using your account cheating?

Was the boy tricked giving out his information because someone wanted to help him?

Did the boy know he was cheating?

Using your account on another machine is not itself cheating; however, the machine it was used on had been modified so that the account could be labeled as getting achievements that it could not have gotten (as noted, the achievements in question are only available in online multiplayer, and must happen in a given sequence, while the data tags indicated that they were gotten out of sequence, during a time when the account was not online). What the player did was indeed cheating. What his friend did comes very close to being fraud - in fact, the only reason it isn't really fraud is because the Recon Armor does not in fact give the player any advantage in combat, it just looks cool, so therefore it has no actual monetary value.

You will note that, despite the vitriol being tossed in the direction of Microsoft and its legal team, there was no legal action taken - the player was merely blocked from access, which is the usual punishment for cheating in an XBox Live game. What's more, the company has offered the boy another account, with a free month of XBox Live Gold, so he can start with a clean slate - rather more generous than they really needed to be...


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28 Jan 2011, 10:54 pm

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rather more generous than they really needed to be...


Or should have been in my opinion



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29 Jan 2011, 12:23 am

superboyian wrote:
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How the heck do you cheat online? Using the cheating device for Xbox games?


Actually, you can cheat online, it's called a JTAG. It let's you run unsigned code and go online with it, but you get console banned within half an hour. I have one, I went online and hosted modded lobbies, an elevator made out of care packages, ftw... :lol:


Sweet. Would love to see that.


Well, here you go, you don't see the elevator until 2:27.
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Didn't you get banned from Xbox just for doing that? Microsoft seem to be more very power hungry when it comes to people on call of duty, even if they didn't cheat.


I did get banned, I didn't like online that much anyways. I usually play nazi zombies for hours by myself. Before the Kinect update, you could host these lobbies for up to 4 hours, but now you get banned within 30 or so mins. I didn't do it for the aspect of cheating, I did it for fun, hearing peoples reaction to some of this stuff is quite amusing.



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29 Jan 2011, 3:28 am

From my understanding, they didn't give him a new gamertag, just that they gave him a free month to start on his way towards the achievements he had before. He's still labelled as a cheater (go go journalistic research).

My problem is the precedent this sets. He gave his account information to another guy, and that guy was the one that cheated. Yet, all the achievements that the kid earned as well as putting on the cheater tag happened to the kid.

I seriously doubt that he knew what the guy was going to do in order to get him the recon armor, and he still gets all the achievements that he did in fact earn taken away and has to deal with the cheater tag.

Edit: Look at it this way: You let someone borrow your car to go get you some milk. They hit someone. Should you be held responsible for it?


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