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16 Feb 2011, 5:15 pm

Would anybody know why I'm tired a lot of the time?

Is it the tons of sweets and chocolate I eat, a side-effect from my anti-depressants, my permanent thinking and anxiety, a lot of exercise (I sometimes walk 5 miles a day), a lack of exercise (when I sit at my computer for hours), or do people my age generally require a lot? If the latter is true, then I'm not getting enough.

It's just so annoying, wanting to go to sleep in the middle of the day, every day. And I can't go to sleep earlier at night, because the TV downstairs keeps me awake, and my brain never, ever switches off.



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16 Feb 2011, 6:06 pm

There are a lot of possible reasons. Have you talked to a doctor about it?

It could be diabetes; do you have to urinate a lot? It could be a sleep disorder. It could be depression. It could be chronic fatigue syndrome. It could be a side effect of medication. A blood test can eliminate a lot of things. A therapist might be able to assist you with some of the other possibilities.


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16 Feb 2011, 9:07 pm

There ia a major issue we have with "shutting off." It's gotten worse as I've gotten older, and it's now virtually impossible for me without using prescription sleep aids. There needs to more research done on the overactive minds, and the seemingly complete lack of, circadian rhythms among people who live on the spectrum.

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16 Feb 2011, 9:35 pm

I've been very tired lately. I've also been very sick.


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17 Feb 2011, 12:16 am

I'm going to go with the sweets you eat. You're 17 now. Your body can't take all that junk as much as it could when you were younger. I was very unhealthy at that age too. Plus having ADHD didn't help.
Also, I would never exercise when what I usually eat was junk. Not that I wouldn't physically do it but I know how much of a chore it is to exercise on an unhealthy diet. The first time I exercised on a healthy diet I could have ascended to heaven. I felt so good.
So try to eat a bit healthier. You may find yourself having less depression too.
Try to get some better sleep too. It's not a matter of 'can't' it's a matter of working out ways you can get better sleep. I mean I throw the covers over my head and try to think of just one thing over and over again to sleep. And tell whoever has the TV on at night to turn it down. Or off.

Although the rapid thoughts at night sound like ADHD. Inattentive ADHD is about low energy and motivation, has anxiety and depression co-morbid and compulsive overeating is common too.


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17 Feb 2011, 12:27 am

Just wanted to add my 2c as to what can cause fatigue, and that is GLUTEN. I used to get MAJORLY tired and have to just go and have a nap, I was apathetic and lethargic, it was awful. I then found out a few years ago that I had an intolerance (not allergy) to gluten. After that, I did notice that yes, straight after I ate something with gluten, I would get that yucky tired feeling. I do my best to avoid gluten these days and it has helped lots. It also made me very bloated - so if you have an issue with bloating, that could also be a sign.
I am still tired in other ways though. I too have issues switching my brain off during sleep-time. I also get very physically tired - as in, my legs, etc, ache a lot more than I wish they would.

BUT the gluten thing might be worth looking into at least ?


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17 Feb 2011, 2:17 am

pensieve wrote:
I'm going to go with the sweets you eat. You're 17 now. Your body can't take all that junk as much as it could when you were younger. I was very unhealthy at that age too. Plus having ADHD didn't help.
Also, I would never exercise when what I usually eat was junk. Not that I wouldn't physically do it but I know how much of a chore it is to exercise on an unhealthy diet. The first time I exercised on a healthy diet I could have ascended to heaven. I felt so good.
So try to eat a bit healthier. You may find yourself having less depression too.
Try to get some better sleep too. It's not a matter of 'can't' it's a matter of working out ways you can get better sleep. I mean I throw the covers over my head and try to think of just one thing over and over again to sleep. And tell whoever has the TV on at night to turn it down. Or off.

Although the rapid thoughts at night sound like ADHD. Inattentive ADHD is about low energy and motivation, has anxiety and depression co-morbid and compulsive overeating is common too.


Indeed diet can affect sleep patterns, no doubt about it, but for me it makes no difference. I don't eat that much sugar most of the time, and never less than six to eight hours before bed.

For some of us, it really is a matter of "can't." (If you want to piss off a chronic raging insomniac, tell them they "can sleep if they think they can" LOL) If you spent night after night with virtually zero sleep because you can't "shut off" the way I and it looks like the OP are describing you'd know what I mean. Without my meds at this point I can't sleep for more than about two hours per night or day. I'm not exaggerating this figure, and there was a period of about a month in May 2007, shortly before I started seeing my psychiatrist and was prescribed meds, that was beyond nightmarish (pun not intended). I was up 22-23 hours per day, the near entirety of each and every night. I was a walking zombie and I could not function at all or even hold a job. Exhausted and sick, but still could not sleep.

It's 2:15 AM right now and I'm raring to go with no signs of stopping. :twisted:

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17 Feb 2011, 9:00 am

Simonono wrote:
Would anybody know why I'm tired a lot of the time?

Is it the tons of sweets and chocolate I eat, a side-effect from my anti-depressants, my permanent thinking and anxiety, a lot of exercise (I sometimes walk 5 miles a day), a lack of exercise (when I sit at my computer for hours), or do people my age generally require a lot? If the latter is true, then I'm not getting enough.

It's just so annoying, wanting to go to sleep in the middle of the day, every day. And I can't go to sleep earlier at night, because the TV downstairs keeps me awake, and my brain never, ever switches off.


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Some meds may help in the area of energy, others may have no effect, and still others may cause a kind of tiredness. Some persons are extremely sensitive to sweets/sugars/refined sugars which can toy with their energy levels. In terms of general nutrition, you might look at the ideas which Jack LaLanne has expressed over the years about the need for good, daily nutrition - a healthy balanced diet of whole foods. Drinking some kinds of soft drinks, energy drinks, can cause a temporary lift in energy yet often later cause an energy crash (a kind of unwanted roller coaster ride).



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17 Feb 2011, 9:08 am

I feel tired all the time no matter what I do. When I ate meat and exercised a lot I was tired. Now that I'm a vegetarian and only walk I'm still tired. If I work I'm tired. If I sit in my house and do nothing I'm tired.

I've had bloodwork done and nothing is wrong, so beats me!

I've heard Aspies just naturally feel more tired than NTs because we are constantly taking in every little detail of the world.


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17 Feb 2011, 9:16 am

Well, it could be a lot of things. You should be medically checked out, to make sure it is not say a blood sugar problem, thyroid problem, or something. You say you are on antidepressants. Did this happen after you started taking them? Have you had some blood work done to rule out certain things?



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17 Feb 2011, 9:45 am

Kiseki wrote:
I feel tired all the time no matter what I do. When I ate meat and exercised a lot I was tired. Now that I'm a vegetarian and only walk I'm still tired. If I work I'm tired. If I sit in my house and do nothing I'm tired.

I've had bloodwork done and nothing is wrong, so beats me!

I've heard Aspies just naturally feel more tired than NTs because we are constantly taking in every little detail of the world.

This, I think... I'm the same way.

I started feeling tired all of the time when I was 12 or so and my mom took me to the doctor to get some blood work done. No problems. Just a general feeling of exhaustion that followed me around.

Last year I had a fasting blood sugar test done. Once again, nothing detected. Everything came back normal, even though I felt like crap for the exam. I still get very weak when I don't eat, though, and hunger is a major trigger for me.

You might also look into your sleep habits. I suspect that that might be part of my problem too. I don't sleep well at night. I get to bed just fine, but I wake up in the wee hours of the morning and can't get back to sleep.


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17 Feb 2011, 9:46 am

i feel exactley the same even after gettings loads of sleep. this has only started to happen recently,



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17 Feb 2011, 10:07 am

Sometimes you can get too much sleep. But also, it's quality versus quantity. I'm never able to sleep a whole night through. I always wake up in the middle somewhere and then it takes me about an hour to get back to sleep.


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17 Feb 2011, 11:49 am

Our brain is the part of your body that consume the most energy. At least 10 time the rate of the rest of the body per gram of tissue.

NT people who get fatigue because of depression is mostly because they are not used to think that much. When they are stressed or have big problem that leads them to depression, they keep thinking about it over and over...

Aspies or any personne with overthinking problem get their fatigue from thinking WAY too much than they can handle. I mean it's like going to the gym 5 times per day and wondering why our muscle are so tired... Nutrition is the key for a healthy brain and WATER... Neural activity use a lot of oxygen (functionning MRI base the brain activity on how much oxygen is being consumed)... Water provides "liquid oxygen" (after chemical reaction), so it helps a lot for headache and provides a healthier brain.

I can assure you that if you take something like 8 water glasses per day you'll feel much more healthier, less tired, less headache and lose weight if you need to!



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17 Feb 2011, 12:24 pm

You should ask a doctor about it. "Tired" is such a vague symptom that is could be a lot of things. Since you exercise quite a bit, I doubt you have chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia. You could possibly have a sleep disorder/poor quality sleep or low cortisol levels. It could be something as simple as not getting the right vitamins. I would suggest getting some B-12 drops. If you have really low B-12 levels, a doc might prescribe you B-12 injections for a bit.


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17 Feb 2011, 1:10 pm

analyser23 wrote:
Just wanted to add my 2c as to what can cause fatigue, and that is GLUTEN. I used to get MAJORLY tired and have to just go and have a nap, I was apathetic and lethargic, it was awful. I then found out a few years ago that I had an intolerance (not allergy) to gluten. After that, I did notice that yes, straight after I ate something with gluten, I would get that yucky tired feeling. I do my best to avoid gluten these days and it has helped lots. It also made me very bloated - so if you have an issue with bloating, that could also be a sign.
I am still tired in other ways though. I too have issues switching my brain off during sleep-time. I also get very physically tired - as in, my legs, etc, ache a lot more than I wish they would.

BUT the gluten thing might be worth looking into at least ?


Agreed with analyser23. (Is that you in the avatar??? CUTE! ) It could be gluten, celiac or not.

It could also be the sweets plus lack of proper workout. Eating a ton and walking a few miles does not count as workout. ;)

It could also be vitamin D deficiency. Go to a dr have a basic physical. They will check for vit D deficiency on the blood panel test.