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Constantaly thirsty?
10 Aug 2011, 12:17 pm
EllenDee wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
I have heard various health practiconers say that many or most people don't drink enough water and are actually dehydrated. Since most people are NT, maybe what is going on is that us Aspies, sensitive as we are to certain sensations, are just noticing how much water the human body really needs and thus drinking more than dehydrated neurotypicals. Like, we are normal in this regard and it's them that are out of wack!
The everyone is dehydrated line is actually an over-repeated falsehood. I'm not sure why people like the idea so much, but the basic story behind it all is that a scientific study showed that the average consumption of liquid in a day was 2 litres - most of which came from food. For some reason, this ended up getting passed around as the minimum amount of clear water required every day, along with the idea in some circles that water included in food and flavored drinks doesn't count. Because few people drink this much, this led to the idea that everyone must be dehydrated.
Whilst I am sure there are some people who don't drink enough, there are plenty of people who never drink plain water who live to a ripe old age.
I raise goats and chickens and have seen what they drink. Also there are tables in books about animal husbandry that show how much water each species requires. A goat, which is similar size to a human requires 2-4 liters a day at minimum so it makes sense that a person would need a similar amount. Except we sweat and they don't and we go out in the sun which animals avoid. Also, we eat salty foods and are exposed to more toxins that perhaps we need more water to deal with. And each person is different. If a person has ruled out diabetes as a cause of thirst, I'd say just follow what you body tells you and don't worry about it. And on that note, I'm going for a big glass of ice water!
10 Aug 2011, 1:15 pm
emtyeye wrote:
I raise goats and chickens and have seen what they drink. Also there are tables in books about animal husbandry that show how much water each species requires. A goat, which is similar size to a human requires 2-4 liters a day at minimum so it makes sense that a person would need a similar amount.
There are actually huge differences between animals - also, there are huge differences in the amount of water contained in the food. The biggest physiological differences relate to how the body handles waste products from food and metabolism - different types of animals can remove waste products from their body with varying amounts of dilution, leading to high differences in the requirements for liquids. Koala's don't drink at all in normal circumstances, but they are no better model for basing our own water consumption on than any other animal.
10 Aug 2011, 4:41 pm
purchase wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
emtyeye wrote:
I have heard various health practiconers say that many or most people don't drink enough water and are actually dehydrated. Since most people are NT, maybe what is going on is that us Aspies, sensitive as we are to certain sensations, are just noticing how much water the human body really needs and thus drinking more than dehydrated neurotypicals. Like, we are normal in this regard and it's them that are out of wack!
That could very well be possible.
My thoughts exactly! Most NTs I know drink a few cans of soda a day and no water and I wonder how on earth they are surviving and happily so. That cannot be healthy.
Also I've noticed many presumed NTs say they hate water and can only drink soda or if it comes to it flavored water or energy drinks. WHAT? The very thought makes me feel sick and parched.
Anyway I don't know why this gets me so worked up but it's weird for this mass amount of human beings to not like water. When did soda become the default drink? And when you ask for water someplace they tell you to buy their ridiculous Aquafina or else give you a tiny cup, as if people drink for enjoyment only and they can't possibly imagine someone enjoying water? I start complaining about this to whoever I'm with every time it happens, which is pretty much anytime I enter a public establishment.
So true. My mother always told me that if thirsty, one should drink water, and I follow this rule (probably another one of those I shouldn't really have listened to). Besides water, I almost only drink milk. Each meal and kind of food gets its own drink (milk for breakfast and lunch, water for dinner except for a few dishes where it's milk). I love water in that it's neutral: other drinks affect your taste, but water is clean.
Water, especially clean water, is the best drink imaginable.
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16 Nov 2011, 1:18 am
MagicMeerkat wrote:
I was ALWAYS thirsty as a kid and no matter how much I drank I could never get "un thirsty". I still am like that but I can get a drink whenever I want and not have to ask for permission for a most basic human right like I did as a kid because I would always finish my water bottles in school and was never allowed to fill them up. Even when there was a water fountain in the classroom, I had to ask for permission to use it. Everyone did but that was like dangling a steak in front of a dog for me. When I couldn't take it anymore, I simply got up and took a sip The teacher acted as if I had commited murder and tried to quilt trip me because no one else could have a drink. Yes they could, it's not like they were tied down or anything. They could have gotten up and had a drink any old time they wanted too. That teacher was a b***h and everyone knew it. She even got fired eventally for her nastiness.
I was told it was my own fault becuase I drank too fast. No matter what I did I could never feel "unthirsty". Even though I can get a drink whenever I want now, I panick whenever I can't get one fast enough. I also naturaly had to use the toilet all the time and often did not make it in time. I was the "pants wetter" in whatever class I was in mostly because I was never allowed to use the bathroom because the teachers thought I was just going there to play in the sink. Even when I legitmatly had to go, I wasn't allowed to because I went more than the normal kid had too. My parents had me tested for diabeates umpteen times but it always came back negetive. Anyway, does constant thirst have anything to do with autism? I wonder if I have a defective hypothalamus or something. I did have low muscle tone as a kid, just like those kids with prader willi syndrome. I wonder if I have somekinda cousin to it where people can't fell "unthiristy".
I was told it was my own fault becuase I drank too fast. No matter what I did I could never feel "unthirsty". Even though I can get a drink whenever I want now, I panick whenever I can't get one fast enough. I also naturaly had to use the toilet all the time and often did not make it in time. I was the "pants wetter" in whatever class I was in mostly because I was never allowed to use the bathroom because the teachers thought I was just going there to play in the sink. Even when I legitmatly had to go, I wasn't allowed to because I went more than the normal kid had too. My parents had me tested for diabeates umpteen times but it always came back negetive. Anyway, does constant thirst have anything to do with autism? I wonder if I have a defective hypothalamus or something. I did have low muscle tone as a kid, just like those kids with prader willi syndrome. I wonder if I have somekinda cousin to it where people can't fell "unthiristy".
I am always thirsty. I am often dehydrated. I went to the hospital for migraines and they told me I was dehydrated. I am always thirsty and keep water bottles near my bed at night.
One of my teachers wouldn't let me go to the bathroom when I was very young and I peed my pants and my mom was so mad at that teacher I think she cursed her out lol.
16 Nov 2011, 2:14 am
You really need to be tested for Diabetes Insipidus. It's not as rare as doctors would like you to believe. The test for it takes awhile and must be done under physician's supervision, but the solution to DI is very simple. DDAVP. One simple drug. To see if you really have an issue, you need to measure input/output. You can get a urine hat from your local lab which you pee into and it measures your urine output so you can record it and measure it against what you're putting in. If you're putting out more than you put in, that's a good thing to show the doctor in concrete measurements. A pituitary endocrinologist is usually the one that diagnoses and treats DI. Good luck.
16 Nov 2011, 2:20 am
hockeytaz wrote:
You really need to be tested for Diabetes Insipidus. It's not as rare as doctors would like you to believe. The test for it takes awhile and must be done under physician's supervision, but the solution to DI is very simple. DDAVP. One simple drug. To see if you really have an issue, you need to measure input/output. You can get a urine hat from your local lab which you pee into and it measures your urine output so you can record it and measure it against what you're putting in. If you're putting out more than you put in, that's a good thing to show the doctor in concrete measurements. A pituitary endocrinologist is usually the one that diagnoses and treats DI. Good luck.
Who me? I have been checked for diabetes. I don't have it. I have been checked for almost every single thing possible.
16 Nov 2011, 3:59 am
psayles56 wrote:
hockeytaz wrote:
You really need to be tested for Diabetes Insipidus. It's not as rare as doctors would like you to believe. The test for it takes awhile and must be done under physician's supervision, but the solution to DI is very simple. DDAVP. One simple drug. To see if you really have an issue, you need to measure input/output. You can get a urine hat from your local lab which you pee into and it measures your urine output so you can record it and measure it against what you're putting in. If you're putting out more than you put in, that's a good thing to show the doctor in concrete measurements. A pituitary endocrinologist is usually the one that diagnoses and treats DI. Good luck.
Who me? I have been checked for diabetes. I don't have it. I have been checked for almost every single thing possible.
There are 2 types of diabetes, Diabetes Mellitus, which is the common type most people know about and diabetes insipidus, which has to do with pituitary dysfunction. I can pretty much guarantee you haven't been tested for DI. Trust me, you'd know it if you were. They withhold liquids from you while drawing blood looking for a certain hormone profile. It sucks if you have DI! Usually only people like me that have pituitary tumors or other pituitary issues get tested for it. DI has nothing to do with sugar, carbohydrates, blood glucose or anything like that. It has to do with your body not putting out enough of the hormone vasopressin which concentrates urine causing your body to expel it excessively.
16 Nov 2011, 8:20 am
I feel thirsty all the time too - well, actually, to be quite honest, it's not an actual thirst as such, as the constant need for drinking, but rather an internal compulsion to drink something, to feel the liquid flowing down your gullet, it just calms me down - that knowledge I can drink at any time I want.
16 Nov 2011, 9:11 am
I drink maximum 2 liters a day.
But...before I go to bed I have to drink some gulps of water so I put a bottle near my bed since it does happen that I'm lying in my bed thinking it wasn't enough. This way I don't have to get up to drink some more.
Before I go out of the house I have to drink some gulps of water, as well. I prefer to take a bottle of water with me outdoors.
I almost only drink water but for breakfast it's always milk.
Do other people here experience something similar? (I don't mean the part about drinking milk for breakfast.)
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16 Nov 2011, 12:47 pm
MagicMeerkat wrote:
I was ALWAYS thirsty as a kid and no matter how much I drank I could never get "un thirsty". I still am like that but I can get a drink whenever I want and not have to ask for permission for a most basic human right like I did as a kid because I would always finish my water bottles in school and was never allowed to fill them up. Even when there was a water fountain in the classroom, I had to ask for permission to use it. Everyone did but that was like dangling a steak in front of a dog for me. When I couldn't take it anymore, I simply got up and took a sip The teacher acted as if I had commited murder and tried to quilt trip me because no one else could have a drink. Yes they could, it's not like they were tied down or anything. They could have gotten up and had a drink any old time they wanted too. That teacher was a b***h and everyone knew it. She even got fired eventally for her nastiness.
I was told it was my own fault becuase I drank too fast. No matter what I did I could never feel "unthirsty". Even though I can get a drink whenever I want now, I panick whenever I can't get one fast enough. I also naturaly had to use the toilet all the time and often did not make it in time. I was the "pants wetter" in whatever class I was in mostly because I was never allowed to use the bathroom because the teachers thought I was just going there to play in the sink. Even when I legitmatly had to go, I wasn't allowed to because I went more than the normal kid had too. My parents had me tested for diabeates umpteen times but it always came back negetive. Anyway, does constant thirst have anything to do with autism? I wonder if I have a defective hypothalamus or something. I did have low muscle tone as a kid, just like those kids with prader willi syndrome. I wonder if I have somekinda cousin to it where people can't fell "unthiristy".
I was told it was my own fault becuase I drank too fast. No matter what I did I could never feel "unthirsty". Even though I can get a drink whenever I want now, I panick whenever I can't get one fast enough. I also naturaly had to use the toilet all the time and often did not make it in time. I was the "pants wetter" in whatever class I was in mostly because I was never allowed to use the bathroom because the teachers thought I was just going there to play in the sink. Even when I legitmatly had to go, I wasn't allowed to because I went more than the normal kid had too. My parents had me tested for diabeates umpteen times but it always came back negetive. Anyway, does constant thirst have anything to do with autism? I wonder if I have a defective hypothalamus or something. I did have low muscle tone as a kid, just like those kids with prader willi syndrome. I wonder if I have somekinda cousin to it where people can't fell "unthiristy".
This is sounding like hypoaldosteronism. I have it, and basically it causes insulin, thyroid, and other hormone levels to be all SNAFU'd. I was thirsty all the time, and drank (not exaggerating) 2 gallons of water a day, and still drink close to that from habit. I have to go to the bathroom every 15 minutes too. Every doctor I've ever seen, has jumped to the conclusion that I must have diabetes, but I don't. My insulin and glucose levels soar and crash, but it's due to the hypoaldosteronism. In the USA, medical insurance won't test for it, so you have to pay for the tests. That would be done by an endocrinologist. The treatment is taking hormone replacement (pills and/or injections).
IF you do have it, it's important to know, because otherwise you might have life-threatening high blood pressure, or obesity that you can't control with diet, etc etc.
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17 Nov 2011, 10:14 am
Mayel wrote:
I drink maximum 2 liters a day.
But...before I go to bed I have to drink some gulps of water so I put a bottle near my bed since it does happen that I'm lying in my bed thinking it wasn't enough. This way I don't have to get up to drink some more.
Before I go out of the house I have to drink some gulps of water, as well. I prefer to take a bottle of water with me outdoors.
I almost only drink water but for breakfast it's always milk.
But...before I go to bed I have to drink some gulps of water so I put a bottle near my bed since it does happen that I'm lying in my bed thinking it wasn't enough. This way I don't have to get up to drink some more.
Before I go out of the house I have to drink some gulps of water, as well. I prefer to take a bottle of water with me outdoors.
I almost only drink water but for breakfast it's always milk.
So....does anybody else experience something like this? I wanted to make a thread about it before but since this thread kind of touches on similar behaviour (though probably with physological causes) I thought I ask this question here.
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