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25 Nov 2011, 11:37 pm

This clip is a little off topic but funny it does have some Hitler elements so I believe it on topic enough.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvXXRWdQqok[/youtube]


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26 Nov 2011, 12:14 am

It dosnt matter if hes was autistic or a psycopath hes an evil person and killed thousands of innocent people.



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26 Nov 2011, 12:59 am

turkey87953 wrote:
It dosnt matter if hes was autistic or a psycopath hes an evil person and killed thousands of innocent people.


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26 Nov 2011, 1:33 am

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It dosnt matter if hes was autistic or a psycopath hes an evil person and killed thousands of innocent people.


Actually, it does matter. If we prove that Hitler was autistic, we can prove that someone autistic can basically do ANYTHING they might want in this world. We've already proved that someone autistic can run a huge company (Bill Gates), now we just need to prove someone who's very powerful in politics is autistic, and we will have proven autistics are capable of everything.



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26 Nov 2011, 1:45 am

Another approach, from another thread, would be to prove Jesus was God and that Jesus was autistic. Let's keep abstracting isomorphisms, people.



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26 Nov 2011, 11:22 am

Todesking wrote:
turkey87953 wrote:
It dosnt matter if hes was autistic or a psycopath hes an evil person and killed thousands of innocent people.


bingo


Exactly. Even if Hitler did have Aspergers (or HFA), it still doesn't change the fact that he didn't like anyone with any type of differences, whether it be physical, mental, racial, or religiously.

Now, let's not bring up this rotting carcass of a thread up again.


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26 Nov 2011, 12:01 pm

swbluto wrote:
Actually, it does matter. If we prove that Hitler was autistic, we can prove that someone autistic can basically do ANYTHING they might want in this world. .


Like attempted world domination and genocide?


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26 Nov 2011, 1:59 pm

Todesking wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Actually, it does matter. If we prove that Hitler was autistic, we can prove that someone autistic can basically do ANYTHING they might want in this world. .


Like attempted world domination and genocide?


When you hear it said of someone "he isn't capable of murder" do you think they've been complimented or insulted?



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26 Nov 2011, 2:01 pm

I doubt Hitler was on the spectrum.


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28 Nov 2011, 7:35 pm

Hitler wasn't going to wipe out Asperger's Syndrome, which was first diagnosed in Nazi Germany as it could be useful and was unaccompanied by mental retardation.

That seems too tolerant for Hitler to me, I think he read something of himself in there. 8)



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28 Nov 2011, 9:01 pm

Z35TYL3M0N wrote:
Hitler wasn't going to wipe out Asperger's Syndrome, which was first diagnosed in Nazi Germany as it could be useful and was unaccompanied by mental retardation.

That seems too tolerant for Hitler to me, I think he read something of himself in there. 8)


Who knows, maybe under the Nazi regime they might have found a way to nuture the high functioning autistic mind creating uber specialists, scientists, and engineers.


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28 Nov 2011, 9:14 pm

Z35TYL3M0N wrote:
Hitler wasn't going to wipe out Asperger's Syndrome, which was first diagnosed in Nazi Germany as it could be useful and was unaccompanied by mental retardation.

That seems too tolerant for Hitler to me, I think he read something of himself in there. 8)


Hitler had parkinson's disease and clearly sociopathic. There is nothing that suggests aspergers.



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01 Dec 2011, 1:37 pm

Z35TYL3M0N wrote:
Hitler wasn't going to wipe out Asperger's Syndrome, which was first diagnosed in Nazi Germany as it could be useful and was unaccompanied by mental retardation.

That seems too tolerant for Hitler to me, I think he read something of himself in there. 8)

Asperger's syndrome was discovered after Aktion T4 (the killing of disabled people) had officially ended. It was originally called autistic psychopathy and included people across the spectrum. The term "Asperger's syndrome" as we know it today dates to Lorna Wing's use of it in 1981. Hans Asperger spoke out in defence of people on the spectrum and against Hitler's programme of eugenics.

Hitler's understanding of autism (if he was aware of it at all) would have been influenced by his belief in eugenics. He would have wanted to remove autism from society in the same way that eugenicists do today.

As a child, adults said that I was 'backwards'. If I was a child in Germany during Aktion T4 I would have been injected with phenol or gassed.



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01 Dec 2011, 2:17 pm

When I was little people always thought of me as being cute, bright, and very shy. I was constantly spitting out facts about animals, dinosaurs, WW2, and the films of Ray Harryhausen. Everyone thought I was a little genius or pretty damned close to one. They use to tell my dad he is going to college when he gets older. When they put me in special education my dad's friends were constantly reminding him Einstein did not do well in school when he was young look what he did with his life. I sure fooled them when I grew up and never did well for myself. :P

Everytime I watch a documentary on Hitler's elimination of the mentally disabled on the history channel I often wonder if I would have ended up being put down for being different. I am not crazy just a little weird. :?


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18 Dec 2012, 11:26 pm

:twisted: :twisted: Possibly Hitler did have Aspergers, but his high ranking inner party held the leash and used his quirky persona as a means hold onto Germany and their power. They probably told Hitler what to say and do at his speeches' and in public. When things looked bad their was a plot to get rid of their strange little leader remember. By the way, Hitler had Asperger's symptoms' all his life. As a small boy he was obscessed with Art and being an Artist and did poorly in school at subjects' that failed to interest him. As a teenager he was obscessed with a girl, but never approached her for a date. He just fantasized about her. That is why I think it was doubtful he ever got Syphilis. Towards the end of his life his doctor, an inner party member, gave him weird drugs' as probably a way to keep control of him. He was really nothing more than a well controlled puppet with a case of Asperger's Syndrome.



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19 Dec 2012, 12:18 am

No, he did not. He was screwed up in the head, but he definitely did not have Autism. Before his rise to power, he was considered by many to be a very nice and charming guy in person. He was renown for his charisma. It's one of the reasons why Hitler's story is so frightening because at the time, people couldn't imagine that such a "normal, friendly guy" could be filled with so much evil.

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-did poorly in school at subjects' that failed to interest him.


According to Professor Robert Payne, "The death of his younger brother, Edmund, from measles on 2 February 1900 deeply affected Hitler. He changed from being confident, outgoing, and an excellent student to a morose, detached, and sullen boy who constantly fought with his father and teachers." Hitler was about 10. He also later revealed in his autobiography that he purposely did poorly in school to rebel against his father, who wanted Hitler to follow in his footsteps. He did better in school once his dad died and he had switched schools.

All this can be found on his Wikipedia page.