Abnormal breathing pattern-"sobbing breaths"?

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18 Feb 2012, 12:19 am

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I think mine is a stim, yes. It used to be a compulsive, though. It might still be, actually. These days I don't really think about or notice it usually, when I do it. Most others wouldn't either. They are all very fast and specific rhythms involving a low amount of air movement, thus they are noiseless for everyone but me, pretty much.

Could you perhaps go into a more detailed explanation about what it is you are doing during these "sobbing breaths"? I'm a bit hazy on what it is you are doing.


Well, it doesn't seem to matter what time it is during the day, and I really don't think mine is a stim,. There is a few things I do that might be stims(?) The one thing I do the most is I rub my lips with the back of my thumbnail (I know that sounds odd, but it kinda helps me think and I do it a lot, even when I'm talking). This breathing pattern doesn't feel like why I rub my lip all the time. I don't know if I can explain it, except it's more involuntary like an irregular heartbeat.

I haven't noticed yet if I only get these weird breaths when I'm sitting down rather than standing ...I'll have to pay better attention to that. I do sit a lot during the day. It does happen a lot when I'm sitting. Just writing this post, it's already happened twice.

I originally thought it was from stress and depression, but my posture and lack of exercise could be the reason, or maybe it's a combination of a few different things that are affecting my diaphragm....and maybe I do have a chronic infection. I've had this breathing thing for a long time consistently (a few years, but it seems to happen more when I'm depressed and stressed, or maybe I just notice it more during those times).



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18 Feb 2012, 7:04 pm

I think going to a doctor would be a good thing but I really don't envy you having to explain this. I hope you have an understanding doc who can listen.

I had a test for COPD once. You blow into a tube connected to a bunch of filters and sensors. They identified the particles in my exhale, exhale strength and quantity - all kinds of stuff.

Another test they might do is a sleep test. They hook you up to a bunch of sensors and monitor your breathing throughout the night. Does it happen while you're sleeping? (lol - would you know?) If you did, a sleep test would document what you're doing and perhaps provide you with some answers.

Could it be a reaction like a hiccup?


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18 Feb 2012, 7:57 pm

goodwitchy wrote:
I haven't noticed yet if I only get these weird breaths when I'm sitting down rather than standing ...I'll have to pay better attention to that. I do sit a lot during the day. It does happen a lot when I'm sitting. Just writing this post, it's already happened twice.


If it turns out that it doesn't happen while standing, then perhaps sitting with a straighter posture could help?



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18 Feb 2012, 10:04 pm

unduki wrote:
I think going to a doctor would be a good thing but I really don't envy you having to explain this. I hope you have an understanding doc who can listen.

I had a test for COPD once. You blow into a tube connected to a bunch of filters and sensors. They identified the particles in my exhale, exhale strength and quantity - all kinds of stuff.

Another test they might do is a sleep test. They hook you up to a bunch of sensors and monitor your breathing throughout the night. Does it happen while you're sleeping? (lol - would you know?) If you did, a sleep test would document what you're doing and perhaps provide you with some answers.

Could it be a reaction like a hiccup?


That test sounds scary to me.

Come to think of it, I don't remember ever having this odd breathing while laying down in bed before I sleep....hmmm....I'm going to pay more attention to when it's happening.
A reaction like a hiccup? Maybe....like something is off timing.



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18 Feb 2012, 10:06 pm

Atomsk wrote:
If it turns out that it doesn't happen while standing, then perhaps sitting with a straighter posture could help?


I think you're correct about that. I tend to lean forward when I sit.



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18 Feb 2012, 11:50 pm

A hiccup is a myoclonus of the diaphragm that repeats several times per minute. In humans, the abrupt rush of air into the lungs causes the vocal cords to close, creating a "hic" sound.

In medicine it is known as synchronous diaphragmatic flutter (SDF), or singultus, from the Latin singult, "the act of catching one's breath while sobbing". The hiccup is an involuntary action involving a reflex arc.

A bout of hiccups, in general, resolves itself without intervention, although many home remedies are often used to attempt to shorten the duration. Medical treatment is occasionally necessary in cases of chronic hiccups

- from Wikipedia -


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19 Feb 2012, 12:33 am

unduki, that's interesting....I hadn't thought of it like a hiccup before you mentioned it, but the similarity is definitely there.



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19 Feb 2012, 12:54 am

I have had this happen to me, too. It's completely involuntary, and just comes on from out of nowhere. I figure it's some kind of spasm of the diaphragm.


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19 Feb 2012, 2:53 am

Now that you guys mention it, I think it could very well be a stimulation issue. My shallow breathing and general abdominal tension tends to be worse depends on how wound up or stressed I am. I notice it the same way I do stimming behavior...that is, I generally do it without thinking/don't realize I'm doing it, it's hard to stop, and it is often a result of me trying to think clearly/concentrate.



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20 Feb 2012, 5:26 pm

There are at least several of us with some abnormal breathing patterns.


By the way, I took note of it happening last night while I was laying down....so I guess it's not just when I'm sitting.


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18 Jun 2012, 11:11 am

I use deep breaths as a stim sometimes. Sometimes, though, it's involuntary and I don't realize I'm doing it until someone asks me if I'm okay.



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18 Jun 2012, 1:30 pm

I get these very odd breaths every now and then. It's like a sigh or a yawn, but not a sigh or yawn. I feel like I have to take a very deep breath, hold it, and let it out very slowly. Sometimes I feel a little reluctant to let it out, it feels very good to take the deep breath, but I must let it out slowly.

This has caused my mom and my coworkers to worry, and I've been to the emergency room, and to doctors, including a cardiologist for it, but they don't seem to find any explanation. They're sending me to a lung doctor next.


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18 Jun 2012, 1:38 pm

I got abnormal breathing patterns quite a bit, anything from breathing to quick and taking in too much air to not breathing nearly enough and getting chest pain...well I guess both of those cause that. But yeah it sucks.


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18 Jun 2012, 10:52 pm

I think I have always been a shallow breather. In fact, sometimes I seem to be holding my breath and have to remind myself to breathe...and I'm 52, so you would think I would have better control by now. I was diagnosed with mild COPD about 5 years ago. They tested me after I developed pneumonia from a week of non-stop panic attacks. (After my third violin lesson, something I've wanted to do since I was 8 years old, the instructor asked me to perform two songs with her in a recital and I went into meltdown mode for a solid week. Unfortunately, I did not perform in the recital and I did not return for more lessons. I wish I could have gotten past it, but that's another story.)

By the way, the breathing tests for COPD were not bad. A bit uncomfortable for me at times, due to my difficulty in exhaling all of the air, but not scary. The doctor was perplexed as to why I have COPD, because I've never been a smoker and I don't fit their 'normal' criteria, but then again I never fit their 'normal' criteria for anything. Once again, that's another story.

Oh yeah, I also sigh quite often and people around me also ask "what's wrong?"! My reply..."Just breathing." I don't know if it could be another one of my stims. I've never thought about it before, but it's an interesting thought.



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18 Jun 2012, 11:04 pm

Sometimes I have to consciously remind myself how to breathe. Like go through the steps. Sometimes it's scary other times I just think I have such a bad memory I can't even remember how to breathe properly. I used to wake up with shallow breathing. I think that was stress related.


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19 Jun 2012, 1:25 pm

pensieve wrote:
Sometimes I have to consciously remind myself how to breathe. Like go through the steps. Sometimes it's scary other times I just think I have such a bad memory I can't even remember how to breathe properly. I used to wake up with shallow breathing. I think that was stress related.


I went through a long period of that. I was getting extra-bad migraines (impossibly bad) and I traced it to my breathing. I thought I was loosing my mind until I started reading about breathing therapists. This is a real thing. I can't afford to get any outside help so I did the next best thing and did it myself. I had self-sessions where I practiced my breathing and every night before going to sleep, I still do another breathing exercise I developed for myself. I'm sleeping better than ever since beginning my self-treatment and the headaches are rare.

I was constantly reminding myself to exhale when I bent over but now I exhale without thinking, most of the time, and I can never hold my breath. I even quit swimming!! because I couldn't work out how to do it without holding my breath. I've been thinking on it and I'm going to give it another try now that the breathing/headache issues have calmed down. I am so out of shape.


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