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The deaf generally don't get a choice over the implants they may recieve. Many states have begun to require that deaf children be given the implants citing that deaf parents are incapable to parent. Even then, those implants hardly ever work and it destroys brain tissue in the process for nothing. The foster parents of most of those deaf children are also generally horrible parents. Many deaf children die because of the implant surgery or because of neglecting parents who can't understand when their child needs things such as water. On a side note, if a child dies from neglect but the child is deaf, the parents suffer no consequences. The Deaf community has it pretty bad sometimes even worse than us.

Until we can splice genes there can not be a cure for Autism. There is no need for a cure either provided the world becomes more accepting to difference as opposed to offended by it. However as we know from history...some things never change

The lesser the number of Aspies the less flavor the world has.

Finding the cause is not the same thing as finding a cure.

CAN are just too optimistic about a cure. They are assuming that autism is caused by some simple genetic quirk that can be fixed. This simple view of autism have already more or less been disproved.

What their genetic research will inevitably end up with is instead a multigenetic autism test that cannot be used for a cure, but can be used for aborting autistic fetuses.

However, I'm quite optimistic that the Neanderthal genome project will be in a shape suitable for comparison with autistic genes before a prenatal test for autism is available for mass-usage.

For anyone doubting that cures or treatments aren't likely to be forced-this is already going on. You only need to do a search on chelation, vitamin B12 shots, Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatments, ABA therapy, Sonrise. You name it, it's out there. Not to mention the dope that doctors push for children, drugs that aren't approved for autistic kids.
When my son was first referred to a neurologist at age 2 1/2, the doc suggested/offered Ritalin to calm him down. To make it easier on ME!! ! I asked if it was studied on autistic people and he said, "no, it's experimental". On a 2 year old!! ! :X
Chelation is administered by IV, you on kids that might not be able to sit still. So they are restrained and forced an injection. And again, this isn't something that is even proven or likely to cure.
There are older survivors of various therapies that have horror stories to tell. These are from what other people call "cures" because parents/doctors/teachers "want their real kids back".

I was shocked when I was pregnant and they ordered me back for a sonogram because they thought I had a Down's Syndrome baby. I was 4 months pregnant and had no idea that 90% of mothers abort Down's Syndrome babies. disgusting

Anybody denying that this isn't widespread is just willfulling being ignorant, because the information is out there. There are scores of "nice people" out there trying to eradicate Autism out of their children.

The best cure, is acceptence.

And second to that is a nice plate of milk and cookies!

stomping your feet and throwing a tanrum while saying "no no no no" doesn't make you right.


you want people to accept you...but you are unwilling to accept *them*. because you disagree, they are WRONG. that kind of sucks.

I accept everyone in my life exactly as they are. I have no desire to change anyone, even people that I don't really like. I will continue to support CAN for the reasons I stated before. My 5 year old should have a choice for himself as he grows up. so should every other person affected.

it isn't right for anyone else to say they can or can't.

Well you have to realize that a cure being found, will likely be forced on Autistic people because governments will see a financial benefit to simply cure all that is different, instead of support education programs to make people understand. Do the math, one cure will probably cost a sum of maybe ~$15,000 one-time payment, per Autistic person in taxpayers money, when first manufactured on a estimate. Compare it to the sum required to educate others, train workers and accommodate for Autistic people, which would be around $50,000-$100,000 a year per Autistic person, in taxpayers money, going for pensions and community service assistance. So don't tell me they won't consider it, as greed comes before morality to them. Worse of all, without a strong enough outcry (as people are brainwashed to see us as helpless and retarded), well no-one can stop them from doing it. My fear is that such knowledge of a cure and it's application will be abused in a malicious fashion to save taxpayers money and not because they care. If I knew it wouldn't be the case, then maybe I'll have a more accepting opinion of the idea. But come on, I've already witness funding cuts to mental health sectors just for the sake of spending less money; so that in itself is evident enough to say they'll consider my feared idea.

I personally feel that if a cure is found, we'll be forced to be cured because the government and taxpayers want to save money on costs of pensions and services and cut them off completely. Why would they would do that you ask? Well, their attitude will be, "Well if there's a cure, we don't need to waste money on these services anymore, scrap them and give the parents or these Autistic people a free cure offer instead. If they refuse the offer, it's their bad luck and they must finance their own problems then". DON'T TELL ME they won't consider this because they have a heart, because history has proven otherwise.

Where's the choice in remaining the way you are if you're completely cut off and society is given the mentality that "you must be cured before you're accepted; there is one available, take it!"?
Where is the choice for parents who can't afford to give their children a choice, because they don't have government money assisting them anymore, as a free cure is offered?
Where is the choice when education programs about Autism cease because funding is cut; due to the cure being available, why bother? After all, if no education program exists, people will slowly forget how to manage Autistic people.
Where is the choice when social workers refuse to deal with Autistic people because they are not funded for that field anymore; due to the cure incentive?

So as far as I'm concerned, a cure will be used as a form of forced psychological cleansing to comply with a primitive intolerant society; and most Autistic people will be pressured to be cured, no matter how they feel about it (in one way or another). Where's the choice in that?

Willow, you don't address anyone, so it's unclear just whom you are referring to having a "tantrum". I certainly don't see anyone doing it. You haven't addressed anyone's statements either, just repeating why you support researching a cure. There are serious consequences to a possible cure as there are serious consequences to the existing treatments.
Asperger's is already considered an insurance risk, there are people afraid to get diagnosed because of this.
The cochlear implant analogy is very relevant and is happening now. It's not a lofty thing in the future.
It sounds like you're mistaking our resistance to a cure to being prejudiced against the people who want to cure us. That doesn't even make sense. Why not just address the relevant information?

I haven't seen any relevant information, just suppositions of individuals whom are putting their beliefs forward as FACT.

True tolerance needs to come from both sides. People like me and accept me in the pub - granted, I'm not a barrel of laughs but I get the impression that I'm a useful resource (knowing when to open your mouth and keep it shut can be useful, too) and they like me.

I do not want to be cured. Never! Never! Never! I'd rather die than have some godawful 'treatment' inflicted upon me. All it needs is time, patience, and tolerance. We can all work together for a better world in this way.

We can try and educate the curebies. If they won't listen, that's their problem. We are a minority in our own right - they can't just eradicate us.

So, the lists of so-called cures that are forced on people present-day is my opinion? Okay, that's a new one. I thought an opinion was a belief and a fact was something that you can verify.
Cochlear implants, just a figment of someone's imagination?
Experience may be anecdotal, but it's certainly real, not an opinion.

Nexus,

You have it BACKWARDS! If people respected space, and personal comfort, as they USED to, it would SAVE money, NOT cost! Fewer people would get sick, cancer, or vision/hearing problems! HEY, the aspie is more comfortable, and EVERYONE benefits! NICE!! !! !

As for Asperger's being an insurance risk? HOW??? Granted, I worked harder, etc... but that isn't 100% one way or the other. How is an Aspie more of a risk?

BTW Anyone advocating tests or cures should watch Gattaca!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

GOOD entertaining and TRUTHFUL movie that shows what WILL happen with current beliefs and such technology. Basically, you have a super NT with some aspie traits vs. a normal NT with some aspie traits.(HECK, maybe he's aspie, WHO KNOWS!?)

Steve

I don't know, Steve, I just know that there are people here who have checked their insurance policies and found out that an Asperger's dx is a risk. Probably because of the "co-morbidity" of depression.

They sure are on a depression kick lately.

I wonder if they realize the "classic signs of depression" in an NT can indicate a perfectly healthy Aspie?

People say I look depressed all the time.. but Im usually in a good mood.