I need your help with understanding some things.
I do that too. Sometimes when walking outside I think about how the Earth is orbiting the sun at an average orbital speed of 107 200 km/h and how the Earth at the same time rotates around its own axis. And we live here, on a tiny speck in a vast universe containing billions and billions of galaxies (which in turn contain billions and billions of stars). Seriously, just writing about this makes me really excited. Almost bouncing in my chair.
Exactly. I think the Hubble Deep Field image is the most profound, amazing, astonishing thing I've ever heard of, and I count myself spectacularly lucky to live in the era when it was taken. And I know almost no one else who's ever heard of it. Talk about feeling alienated. Wrong planet, indeed.
Yes, it's awesome! I think it's cool how they thought that part of the sky looked empty. It clearly wasn't.
People I know don't really share this interest so I know what you mean by feeling alienated.
I'm in the opposite position. When I was growing up, my dad always accused me of being very self centered (ironic in a way as I now think he's on the spectrum too and I see him as being self centered at times). So, I have overcompensated and now try to solve every problem I come across. It actually makes up the bulk of my initial meetings with others as it is the only way I relate well. I don't really deal with it from an emotional standpoint for the most part. instead, it becomes about looking at a situation and trying to find the greatest good. I can overreact at times, but I find that people are more forgiving when I do as they can see that I was only trying to do the right thing.
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Uncertain of diagnosis, either ADHD or Aspergers.
Aspie quiz: 143/200 AS, 81/200 NT; AQ 43; "eyes" 17/39, EQ/SQ 21/51 BAPQ: Autistic/BAP- You scored 92 aloof, 111 rigid and 103 pragmatic
I think any neurotypical would freak out and be angry, whereas almost all people in the spectrum would understand I meant no harm, like you did.
In this way we are much more tolerant than most
Because rationally it's "simple as that". But NT's *feel* well, well before they actually start thinking.
And they'll feel "belittled, angry, slapped on the wrist" etc. etc.
The reason is probably that all NT's would simply let the error persist, because they know ego's and feeling's would get "bruised" (took me decades to figure all this out!! !)
I guess I went a little too far/specific with trying to explain myself here...
I first realized what I was talking about in my previous post when my therapist explained it like I quoted at the end of that post.
The bottom line is: A common and useful "defense strategy" the brain uses against mounting stress is simply to literally "take your mind off of things".
When you are outside you are prone to an infinite amount of random socially ubiquitous/un-anticipated situations.
If you would step outside and would start to just think about that you'd get so anxious it'd be very diffcult and stressfull to actually go to the store etc...
So you start to wonder, or think about science stuff; all things that can be gotten exactly right by knowing the facts, instead of interpreting ethereal things like "feelings" etc.
I hope my explanation is a bit more clear. I'm drunk at the moment, you see...
Instead of lying in bed for hours on end, wasting time trying to get to sleep, I simply drink some vodka and get to rest right away.
Sure, alcohol might be poison, but any -medical- drug can be described that way.
I'll try to stop once I get into the more sheltered living situation I'm on the waiting list for
If the explanation still isn't clear just say so and I'll elaborate when waking up 14 hours from now!
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Empathy quotient: 14
Your Aspie score: 185 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 14 of 200
The Broad Autism Phenotype Test: You scored 132 aloof, 126 rigid and 132 pragmatic. IQ: 139. AQ: 45/50
In this way we are much more tolerant than most
Because rationally it's "simple as that". But NT's *feel* well, well before they actually start thinking.
And they'll feel "belittled, angry, slapped on the wrist" etc. etc.
The reason is probably that all NT's would simply let the error persist, because they know ego's and feeling's would get "bruised" (took me decades to figure all this out!! !)
Well, I freaked out a little bit. Not because you were right but because I made a mistake. I'm such a perfectionist and I really don't like being wrong. But no matter how I felt you were right so I didn't get angry or anything. It really is as simple as that. Do you know what I mean?
I first realized what I was talking about in my previous post when my therapist explained it like I quoted at the end of that post.
The bottom line is: A common and useful "defense strategy" the brain uses against mounting stress is simply to literally "take your mind off of things".
When you are outside you are prone to an infinite amount of random socially ubiquitous/un-anticipated situations.
If you would step outside and would start to just think about that you'd get so anxious it'd be very diffcult and stressfull to actually go to the store etc...
So you start to wonder, or think about science stuff; all things that can be gotten exactly right by knowing the facts, instead of interpreting ethereal things like "feelings" etc.
I hope my explanation is a bit more clear. I'm drunk at the moment, you see...
Instead of lying in bed for hours on end, wasting time trying to get to sleep, I simply drink some vodka and get to rest right away.
Sure, alcohol might be poison, but any -medical- drug can be described that way.
I'll try to stop once I get into the more sheltered living situation I'm on the waiting list for
If the explanation still isn't clear just say so and I'll elaborate when waking up 14 hours from now!
Yeah, I think I know what you mean. You might be right. I haven't thought about it that way before.
Just be careful with the alcohol. I used to self-medicate with alcohol a few years ago (to make my anxiety go away) and it wasn't really good for me.
Oh yes, I was extremely perfectionistic for decades.... It got me through University, but after a year of fulltime work and living on my own it completely burned me out.
Never knew I was a perfectionist untill after that
It can be a *huge* factor in self image, evaluating your performance etc.
And it is 1000% unreliable for that... No matter how well you did, the perfect "bar" is always waaay above that!
Yeah, I think I know what you mean. You might be right. I haven't thought about it that way before.
Just be careful with the alcohol. I used to self-medicate with alcohol a few years ago (to make my anxiety go away) and it wasn't really good for me.
Do me a favor and think about it a bit. It REALLLY helped me a lot to accept it!
On the alcohol:
I use Seroquel to squash the anxiety.
The alcohol is just a temporary thing to skip the 2 to 4 hours of stressing out in bed.
I know it's poison, and I carefully measure the amount drunk each night (and I have never had to increase the amount so far in two years).
But yes, I do worry about taking this "poison" nightly and ensure not to drink more over time..
Thanks *VERY!! !* much for your concern!! !
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Empathy quotient: 14
Your Aspie score: 185 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 14 of 200
The Broad Autism Phenotype Test: You scored 132 aloof, 126 rigid and 132 pragmatic. IQ: 139. AQ: 45/50
I totally understand the first point of yours. But I don't think it's a confidence problem. It's just not intuitively knowing what is appropriate for a certain situation.
Especially, if someone is getting emotional and crying, I'm often clueless. I have almost no idea how to respond, other than maybe hug the person or something like that.
Point 2: I think a lot about my environment but my thoughts deal with aesthetics, beauty...etc. and sometimes I wonder what other people in my environment are thinking and who they are, how they live.....so I certainly don't have natural-science focused thoughts. But I understand that it's a matter of interests.
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Knowing / that I could walk seventeen miles through a ravine / in the heart of Toronto,
and never / directly see the city/ is of some comfort
If someone's crying I get the same feeling of confusion but I often manage to ask what's going on (if I know the person that is) and depending on who's crying I ask if they want a hug.
Why do I have this problem? Is it a confidence problem? What do people really want me to do in situations like these?
2. I've always (for as long as I can remember) felt different and I've felt like I view the world in a different way than the people around me. One example of this is that when I go outside I often don't just go outside; I think about everything (not always but often). I think about what the air I breathe in consists of, I think about how the respiratory system works, I think about how it's taken 8 minutes for the light I see to travel to Earth and I think about the fact that I sort of look back 8 minutes in time all the time. I think about the colours of things and I wonder if people see for example the colour green the same way as I do. And I think about why I can see that green colour. Loads of things like that. When I mention it to people they say "be careful about saying that to people or they might think you're weird." Not sure they were serious?
I hope you understand what I mean. It's a bit difficult to explain. Anyway, am I the only one who do this?
This reminds me of something that happened to me when I was little. I think I was about . . . 6 years old? I never looked at mirrors much . .. and I still don't. So One day I walked by a tall mirror on my grandmothers house and asked her how come I could see my reflection that way? That when I see other people, I saw them as I saw myself in the mirror but I could not see myself as I saw others unless I had a mirror. (I did not understand the concepts of first second and third person at the time). She did not understand my question and still sometimes I wonder. I still find mirrors very intimidating and I think I have not seen my eyes or my face in one in years. If I need to use a mirror I concentrate only on the area that i need to see to work with (part of the face im cleaning, my teeth, my hair) but never the whole thing.
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