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01 Nov 2012, 10:22 am

I found this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4751075.stm

and I wonder how correct it is. For a start, what about when people with AS 'zone out'? Is this not a type of daydreaming?

Also, in their test, what if the reason the autistic people didn't daydream in the parts where the non-autistics did, is because they were unsure of why they were looking at the cross and analysing it to come up with a reason, so their brains didn't rest in that part? There could be other explanations too, I find it odd that they have come to this conclusion based on that test.


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01 Nov 2012, 10:38 am

I also wonder if they were thinking and trying to understand other things to themselves. Are we certain autistics don't take longer to go into daydream. Also isn't the sample size a bit small.



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01 Nov 2012, 10:42 am

This makes sense to me to a certain degree. I feel that often, if I try to allow my brain to relax into it's 'resting state' by not consciously trying to do anything, my thoughts never seem to slow down and I find my brain thinking all sorts of interconnected analytical thoughts about some very complex things. I have no idea how much that differers from the NT experience of daydreaming but I am often told that I over-think and have lots of trouble switching off to sleep etc. so get the impression my thought process might be different or at least at a constant level whether I try to relax or not.


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01 Nov 2012, 11:08 am

Si_82 wrote:
This makes sense to me to a certain degree. I feel that often, if I try to allow my brain to relax into it's 'resting state' by not consciously trying to do anything, my thoughts never seem to slow down and I find my brain thinking all sorts of interconnected analytical thoughts about some very complex things. I have no idea how much that differers from the NT experience of daydreaming but I am often told that I over-think and have lots of trouble switching off to sleep etc. so get the impression my thought process might be different or at least at a constant level whether I try to relax or not.
I feel that way as well I might go of on a hypothetical tangent more than daydream.



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01 Nov 2012, 11:09 am

reading that page instantly showed a mistake in the method used; the conclusion sounded wrong already.
they said that the brain at rest didn't show the signs of daydreaming, but in the "resting" periods, you had to look at a cross, that is not a brain at rest, not for me at least.

i myself do certainly daydream, but only when i am fully idle, so during this experiment, i wouldn't be daydreaming either, not by their definition



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01 Nov 2012, 11:10 am

Lol, if it is true then I'm the most NT person on the earth. Surprise!


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01 Nov 2012, 11:12 am

when I get into deep thought I ignore time and my surroundings, idk if thats daydreaming or not



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01 Nov 2012, 11:17 am

Maybe what we call "daydreaming" is different from what the NTs call "daydreaming"--or at least, looks different on a brain scan. I do experience idle thoughts, but they're often analytical, as some of you have noted.

I wonder how big the difference is? Is it just a mild tendency, or an obvious gap? After all, autistic and neurotypical aren't two totally different groups. It's more of a continuum.


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01 Nov 2012, 11:20 am

I wonder how the scans would differ when ASD subjects were stimming?


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01 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

That's BS. I daydream all the time. :lol:


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01 Nov 2012, 11:26 am

Si_82 wrote:
I wonder how the scans would differ when ASD subjects were stimming?
Difficult to do... you'll blur the scans. The environment probably would affect the ASD subjects more than the NT subjects, though. Somebody needs to research the effects of the testing environment itself, to make sure they don't differ between groups, or to correct for the differences if they do.


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01 Nov 2012, 1:18 pm

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The University of California research, in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, compared brain scans of people with autism and those without.


FFS why would you name your publication such that the acronym is PNAS? I guess those scientists are daydreaming about getting laid.



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01 Nov 2012, 1:35 pm

Thats BS, Im constantly daydreaming. One of my favorite things to do is put on a pair of headphones, listen to some music and just close my eyes and pretend its me up on stage playing kick as lead guitar 8)


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01 Nov 2012, 2:03 pm

Bunch 'o Crap. I wouldn't give this guy a second thought.

Are we not human? I wonder which box they'll try to shove us ALL in next.


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01 Nov 2012, 2:19 pm

I daydream a lot. If this research is true I presume this is just a personal attribute of mine.