How to distinguish HFA and aspergers?
Dont know if its in the american system as well, but THE great difference in the european system are speech problems until the age of 3. When I got diagnosed in the autism specialist centre, according to the majority of my symptoms, I would have fitted far more into HFA, but I had no speech delays until 3, so they needed to diagnose me with Aspergers. ^^
So Aspergers should have no speech delays, HFA shall have them. ^^ In the end it doesnt matter anymore, because its all autism spectrum disorder now. ^^
Well im on the spectrum myself, diagnosed with PDD-NOS. They dont really know Where to put me.. Im getting confused to want to find it out! I started to speak fluently somwhere around 2 and a Half, is it considered as a general speech delay? My IQ is average or above somwhere between 109-125 or higher if i remember it right.. So what you guys think, AS or HFA? :p
Fluently? What do you mean fluently?
A speech delay usually means when someone begins talking, not when they start to construct sentences
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Aspergers diagnosis is gone now. Everyone is ASD now with a score per autistic trait. The only differences now will be your "scores" per the identified ASD traits. Some will have "1s" for lower functioning, and others will have high scores for higher functioning.
See,
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all
Quote: But when DSM-V was launched last month after years of controversy, Asperger’s was conspicuously missing. Therapists using the new manual will have to plug their patient somewhere along the “autism spectrum".
Speaking fluently by 2.5 years old seems like AS.
In adulthood, AS and HFA cannot be reliably distinguished, but in childhood, HFA children have more social/communication/language delays, and speaking fluently by age 2.5 fits AS bester than HFA.
The criteria often used in clinic and research is single words by age two and two-or-three word phrases by age three to distinguish AS from HFA.
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aspies start speaking at the normal time that kids normally start to speak (whenever that is).
If there is a delay in aquiring speech then its called 'autism'.
If youre autistic, but are high functioning then your 'high functioning autistic'. But aspies are also "HFA" so in adults for practical purposes they are the same thing.
And since they have eliminated the aspergers label then for ALL purposes they are the same thing.
After my reassessment in 2010, I was diagnosed with autistic disorder, even though I was thinking I had Asperger syndrome in the months leading up to the re-diagnosis. This was mostly based on my early ability to speech, without any significant delay in that area. After my diagnosis of autistic disorder, people I spoke to offline, as well as right here on WrongPlanet, were baffled that I had not been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, and recommended that I contact the psychiatrist who had conducted the assessment and had made the diagnosis, to explain how she came to that conclusion. But at the time, I wasn't all that much interested in doing that, because I had not maintained a meaningful rapport with her.
I basically mainly consider my 2010 diagnosis and its report to be an addendum to the diagnoses made by the school psychiatrists who saw me when I was 7-ish, and all the other specialists and therapists I encountered while in school since.
@Asperger96: it's funny, my impression has been the exact opposite!
Most people with Asperger syndrome that I've encountered seemed to fare slightly better in the department of socialization then the HFA's. Emphasis on 'slightly', and there have been exceptions on both 'sides'.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/0 ... 07791.html
Unlike like this later study showed more connections. And these only studied children. A lot more studying needed
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I spoke single words by age 2, BUT was using single word speech until age 4 or 5. I had poor articulation problems once I started using more than two words until age 7 or 8 (only my mom could understand me most of the time).
Do I only fit part of the past Asperger's criteria for speech fluency?
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Do I only fit part of the past Asperger's criteria for speech delay?
I find this group an interesting group and am generally curious about how people would answer to that question too; what about those people "started speaking single words, but then stayed at single words".
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