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Neuroscientist says 1% of the population are psychopaths

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04 Nov 2014, 3:30 pm

As to the psycho/socio-pathy in the military:

http://gazette.com/27-afa-cadets-injure ... cle/146671

Officials will make public relations statements about not tolerating such behavior, but my experience was that they often knew what was going on, and tolerate/encourage it as a part of toughening up the troops. The nuking ritual they refer to can be a quite violent event, and like the "first snow, first shirt" event described in this article, is often done in freezing weather. I saw many nukings, and couldn't understand how such mistreatment of students could be tolerated (no need to explain - I understand it now).

The game the officials play is how to allow the hazing to go on, but not get so out of hand that it causes a scandal or unfavorable public exposure. Anyone who reports it runs the risk of brutal retaliation unless the problem is thoroughly dealt with, which it never is.

The traits may be desired in leaders, but the real question is, what is it they are leading others to do. Is the ultimate outcome of p/s-pathic leadership, whether on battlefield or boardroom, really something helpful to society?



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04 Nov 2014, 3:40 pm

let's just say that society stubbornly holds on in spite of its sociopathic leadership. it is like the fragrance of the violet which holds fast to the heels which crushed it.



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04 Nov 2014, 4:52 pm

Beautiful image.

And that reminds me I have to go finish building my spaceship.



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04 Nov 2014, 4:54 pm

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Beautiful image. And that reminds me I have to go finish building my spaceship.

can I come? Image



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04 Nov 2014, 5:14 pm

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can I come?


All aboard!

Unfortunately, the only pilot we could find is a psychopath.



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04 Nov 2014, 5:15 pm

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All aboard! Unfortunately, the only pilot we could find is a psychopath.

we'll just watch how he does things and then kick him off the rocket at the first habitable planet around alpha centauri.



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04 Nov 2014, 5:27 pm

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voleregard wrote:
All aboard! Unfortunately, the only pilot we could find is a psychopath.

we'll just watch how he does things and then kick him off the rocket at the first habitable planet around alpha centauri.


Maybe the alpha centaurians have found a "fix" for it.



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04 Nov 2014, 5:31 pm

voleregard wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
voleregard wrote:
All aboard! Unfortunately, the only pilot we could find is a psychopath.

we'll just watch how he does things and then kick him off the rocket at the first habitable planet around alpha centauri.


Maybe the alpha centaurians have found a "fix" for it.

i'll buy THAT for a dollar :)



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04 Nov 2014, 11:44 pm

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So if you're ever wondering how some people can mistreat others for fun and not care about the effect, there are psychopaths, literally psychopaths, out there who really don't care whether you live or die, and may just mistreat others for enjoyment or to gain their own advantage, and they seem to have a skill for detecting others who are vulnerable.


I can tell you for certain that there are those out there that are specifically detecting and taking advantage of the vulnerability of autistics.

Yes, it certainly seems like a lot more than 1%, but you have to take into account all of those people out there who are just emulating psychopathic behaviors.



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04 Nov 2014, 11:58 pm

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: "glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, cunning/manipulative, pathological lying, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy, a tendency to boredom, impulsivity, criminal versatility, behavioural problems in early life, juvenile delinquency, and promiscuous sexual behaviour."


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Frankly that describes my current boss to a "T" and at least a few former employers of mine as well. It is frightening to think that many of this horrible characteristics might actually be that kind of qualities that help some people achieve and move up the ladder to success.

in my experience it is the exceptional leader who is not at least a bit of a bastard.


That's such a good point! The book Snakes in Suits is about sociopaths/psychopaths in professional positions. Because psychopaths superficially exude charm and personality, they can excel at interviews and reviews, using their manipulative knack. Then when they instigate problems (& they do!), those they hurt are too afraid to cross the sociopath. Sociopaths use others like pawns in their game and cheat the rules. In this way, sociopaths get away with bad behaviour, even elevating themselves to further power! 8O

And I know, because I've met a sociopath. :cry: While I shy away from labelling anyone as evil, sociopaths are the very definition of evil. Successful sociopaths are even scarier.


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05 Nov 2014, 12:04 am

LabPet wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
r2d2 wrote:
voleregard wrote:
: "glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, cunning/manipulative, pathological lying, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy, a tendency to boredom, impulsivity, criminal versatility, behavioural problems in early life, juvenile delinquency, and promiscuous sexual behaviour.".

Frankly that describes my current boss to a "T" and at least a few former employers of mine as well. It is frightening to think that many of this horrible characteristics might actually be that kind of qualities that help some people achieve and move up the ladder to success.
in my experience it is the exceptional leader who is not at least a bit of a bastard.

That's such a good point! The book Snakes in Suits is about sociopaths/psychopaths in professional positions. Because psychopaths superficially exude charm and personality, they can excel at interviews and reviews, using their manipulative knack. Then when they instigate problems (& they do!), those they hurt are too afraid to cross the sociopath. Sociopaths use others like pawns in their game and cheat the rules. In this way, sociopaths get away with bad behaviour, even elevating themselves to further power! 8O
And I know, because I've met a sociopath. :cry: While I shy away from labelling anyone as evil, sociopaths are the very definition of evil. Successful sociopaths are even scarier.

I know mentioning Sylvia browne is anathema to some here, but she said something that resonates with me- she calls sociopaths "dark spirits" and says that when they die they don't go to heaven, but spend time in outer darkness and then reincarnate through the "left door" into any available lifetime. she says they are not fixable, not even by god.



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05 Nov 2014, 12:08 am

I don't know anyone who I think is a psychopath or on that spectrum, or maybe I am not good at spotting them, but I can't think of anyone who might be like that in my life.


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05 Nov 2014, 12:09 am

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I don't know anyone who I think is a psychopath or on that spectrum, or maybe I am not good at spotting them, but I can't think of anyone who might be like that in my life.

you are VERY FORTUNATE :star: I've encountered them all my life. :hmph: even have one who is an older brother. :x



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05 Nov 2014, 12:10 am

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btbnnyr wrote:
I don't know anyone who I think is a psychopath or on that spectrum, or maybe I am not good at spotting them, but I can't think of anyone who might be like that in my life.

you are VERY FORTUNATE :star: I've encountered them all my life. :hmph: even have one who is an older brother. :x


What are a few simple ways to tell if someone is a psychopath?
How does someone make you suspect that they are?
I think I have been fortunate to have been around people who are probably nicer than average.


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05 Nov 2014, 12:27 am

btbnnyr wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
I don't know anyone who I think is a psychopath or on that spectrum, or maybe I am not good at spotting them, but I can't think of anyone who might be like that in my life.

you are VERY FORTUNATE :star: I've encountered them all my life. :hmph: even have one who is an older brother. :x


What are a few simple ways to tell if someone is a psychopath? How does someone make you suspect that they are? I think I have been fortunate to have been around people who are probably nicer than average.

if you feel people are peeing on your leg yet they tell you it is only raining [IOW they are gaslighting you or doing ungood things to you yet telling you when you complain that you are overreacting or just imagining things]. if you can see they dig hurting people or animals or steal things from you or claim credit for your accomplishments, that is a sociopathic trait also.