University marks and intelligence.

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I graduated with a 2:2. I had expected (and had been expected) to do better given the grades I'd got at school. I found university a real challenge but it didn't test my intelligence so much as my stamina and my ability to deal with social situations. My degree was geology so there were lots of field trips and this meant living in dormitories with a lot of very rowdy and drunk (and usually wealthy and arrogant) guys. This was total overload for me. I wouldn't sleep for nights on end and consequently I wasn't in a fit state to work well. I also found that I didn't like being out in the elements and looking back I think that was a sensory thing. If they could only have brought the rocks indoors - then I would have done fine

That means "lower second-class honours," right.

Congratulations on graduating, despite those drunk idiots.

Do you intend on going to Grad School?

People have to decide how to spend their time. Most people will decide to pursue blissfulness over hardship. However, others will have some confliction that makes them do the unusual, and pursue hardship over blissfullness.

The ones who have that confliction will likely be judged *more intelligent* than the ones who choose to spend their time in bliss.

For example, where I work people will often have a M.S. or PHD degree and have a law degree. They accomplish so much because of an iternal confliction. Some want the prestige of many credentials (i.e., the 'pride' confliction), some want the money ('greed' confliction), some just have a passion for education (i.e., 'passion' confliction) ....

These conflictions cause these people to pursue hardship over bliss, and it results in them being more intelligent than those that choose the bliss of say watching tv.

Some entrepreneurs are millionaires and instead of "living the easy life" they are conflicted to invent/develop even more.

However, there are many people desiring to relax, watch tv, "life the easy life" ... and these people will likely not be judged to be as intelligent as the before mentioned people.

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Yep....people think I'm pretty dumb.

I like to watch lots of TV.

Hi Kraftiekortie,

Thanks. Yes I did mean a lower second honours.

I'm not thinking about doing any postgraduate study - I'm too old now and I wouldn't want to commit all that money to something that would be unlikely to improve my earnings.

I wish that didn't make sense--an education is a great thing.

But it does.

Intelligence can be a curse.

Intelligent people can build a wall around themselves and forget life is about pursuing bliss IMO.

I think you're darn tootin' right about that

(and I'm not kidding!)

I find doing science research pretty blissful, it is super fun for me.

As an ASD person, you may find your special interest more enjoyable than relaxation. However, that is not true of most people.

On a relevant "intelligence test", you would likely be judged more intelligent than the millions of people who invested their time in relaxtion / being a coach potatoe.

Exams pass, education remains

No, there are numerous studies including one famous one at Harvard University which finds only a weak association. Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

lower than what? higher in intelligence than what or whom??

That is the most bizarre research finding I have come across in a long time. Am I right in assuming that this was another "correlation assumed to be causation" thing? As in, academic achievement correlated with relatively high EQ scores, but there was little or nothing in the research that suggested that the skills implied by high EQ scores were directly used to succeed academically?

It makes sense to me as university drained me a lot with the social interaction rather than the actual material. It was dealing with the big crowds and people that eventually got me to quit as it was slowly driving me crazy. Specially in the high level course were small, thus, resulting in socializing with people more often.

Yes, the emotional intelligence studies are correlation between academic achievement and EQ, not EQ causes academic achievement. In other studies studying IQ and academic achievement, it is usually found that IQ is biggest predictor of academic achievement.