This is the most important election of my life because I'm autistic

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21 Aug 2016, 7:52 am

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I'm voting for Trump, if that's a problem oh well. I lived in Chicago in the Militant capitol of the Democratic Party and all this city is known for is despair.

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Hillary won't deprive me of health care. that is what I care about.

I honestly think this is one of the most important issues in the United States right now. The US is one of the ONLY developed countries that lacks a proper public healthcare system. Instead it has a f****d up privatized framework that actively denies services to people who need them just because they can't afford to pay for themselves. The reason why their wait times are shorter than ours IS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T BEING TREATED. I likely wouldn't be alive right now if it weren't for Tommy Douglas, the man behind Canada's healthcare system.

I have friends in the US that I care deeply about, and some of them have physical and mental health issues. I want them to be able to have consistent access to healthcare. I want all Americans to have consistent access to healthcare.


We do its called the VA and it sucks compared to our private healthcare network but democrats when they had a super majority and even used the Nuclear Option they pushed Obamacare through so Democrats have done enough to raise the cost for healthcare in this nation.

Also our heatlhcare is great I now pay a twenty dollar copay to see my doctor. If I want to see a specialist like a mental health twenty dollar co pay. Also I get to see my doctor in less than a week instead of months lol


Obamacare wasn't implemented the right way. The problem with implementing a proper, Canadian-style system in the US is that big pharma and all the insurance companies hold waaaaaaaay too much power. They don't WANT the US to have a proper healthcare system, because that would take away from their profits. Obamacare is at best, a half-assed solution made to accomodate for the big insurance companies so that they can continue to suck people's wallets dry.

You may think paying a $20 copay is "great", but I don't have to pay one at all when I go to the doctor or the hospital! :P I even have my prescriptions covered by the Alberta government (although this is because I'm on AiSH, Alberta's disability pension).



When it comes to Canadians on this forum one thing I see a lot is people saying they are going to hold off on getting tested for autism because it's too either to much or takes to long.

I don't want to live in a society where I have to wait months or years to get treatment and the politicians tell me what treatments I can or can't have. With the advent of Obamacare we've had Chicago politicians demand doctors stop getting people's tonsils removed.

So someone like me who gets chronic throat infections have to now beg the doctors to get the treatment.

Plus free healthcare all we have to do is look at our vets who get everything free with the VA waiting months, years to get treatment.

With Obama aides telling us there is nothing to see here that veterans get sub standard care.

Every time I mention how easy it is to get a diagnosis or see a doctor someone from the UK or Canada always responds saying that it's not true cause it takes them months or years to get a diagnosis or costs them thousands of dollars if they want it quicker



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21 Aug 2016, 3:03 pm

HisShadowX wrote:
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I'm voting for Trump, if that's a problem oh well. I lived in Chicago in the Militant capitol of the Democratic Party and all this city is known for is despair.

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Hillary won't deprive me of health care. that is what I care about.

I honestly think this is one of the most important issues in the United States right now. The US is one of the ONLY developed countries that lacks a proper public healthcare system. Instead it has a f****d up privatized framework that actively denies services to people who need them just because they can't afford to pay for themselves. The reason why their wait times are shorter than ours IS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T BEING TREATED. I likely wouldn't be alive right now if it weren't for Tommy Douglas, the man behind Canada's healthcare system.

I have friends in the US that I care deeply about, and some of them have physical and mental health issues. I want them to be able to have consistent access to healthcare. I want all Americans to have consistent access to healthcare.


We do its called the VA and it sucks compared to our private healthcare network but democrats when they had a super majority and even used the Nuclear Option they pushed Obamacare through so Democrats have done enough to raise the cost for healthcare in this nation.

Also our heatlhcare is great I now pay a twenty dollar copay to see my doctor. If I want to see a specialist like a mental health twenty dollar co pay. Also I get to see my doctor in less than a week instead of months lol


Obamacare wasn't implemented the right way. The problem with implementing a proper, Canadian-style system in the US is that big pharma and all the insurance companies hold waaaaaaaay too much power. They don't WANT the US to have a proper healthcare system, because that would take away from their profits. Obamacare is at best, a half-assed solution made to accomodate for the big insurance companies so that they can continue to suck people's wallets dry.

You may think paying a $20 copay is "great", but I don't have to pay one at all when I go to the doctor or the hospital! :P I even have my prescriptions covered by the Alberta government (although this is because I'm on AiSH, Alberta's disability pension).



When it comes to Canadians on this forum one thing I see a lot is people saying they are going to hold off on getting tested for autism because it's too either to much or takes to long.

I don't want to live in a society where I have to wait months or years to get treatment and the politicians tell me what treatments I can or can't have. With the advent of Obamacare we've had Chicago politicians demand doctors stop getting people's tonsils removed.

So someone like me who gets chronic throat infections have to now beg the doctors to get the treatment.

Plus free healthcare all we have to do is look at our vets who get everything free with the VA waiting months, years to get treatment.

With Obama aides telling us there is nothing to see here that veterans get sub standard care.

Every time I mention how easy it is to get a diagnosis or see a doctor someone from the UK or Canada always responds saying that it's not true cause it takes them months or years to get a diagnosis or costs them thousands of dollars if they want it quicker

I had a $3000 neuropsychologist's assessment given to me free by the Alberta government, and that's how I got my current diagnosis. Maybe the healthcare in other provinces isn't as good, but Alberta's is certainly decent.


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21 Aug 2016, 6:48 pm

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Please think about it, America.

americans are too horseblindered to care about what the rest of the world thinks. pray for us, please.



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21 Aug 2016, 6:51 pm

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Also our heatlhcare is great I now pay a twenty dollar copay to see my doctor. If I want to see a specialist like a mental health twenty dollar co pay. Also I get to see my doctor in less than a week instead of months lol

YOUR healthcare may be great, you got lucky- but there are more people in America than just you who matter. you have gold-plated health insurance, that is great, but not all of us are that lucky.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:20 am

And this is why I say I am voting third party.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:23 am

until you have a truly viable 3rd party like in other nations, voting for a third party just spoils it for one or the other dominant party here. for a 3rd party to really work here, it seems we'd need something closer to a parliamentary-type system where a coalition gov't can form. as long as there is no reaching across the aisles here, it just won't work.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:28 am

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until you have a truly viable 3rd party like in other nations, voting for a third party just spoils it for one or the other dominant party here. for a 3rd party to really work here, it seems we'd need something closer to a parliamentary-type system where a coalition gov't can form. as long as there is no reaching across the aisles here, it just won't work.


Maybe this is just my sense of idealism, but I believe that to truly get government reform means stripping ourselves of the traditional views of voting. If I vote for third party and convince one person who then convinces another, then convinces another we might have a chance.

You cannot complain about the status quo and do nothing to fix it. And take none of the liberty or risk to do so. There isn't just Hilary and Trump. And maybe if a third party does win this election, it will make the government take a look of itself and try to figure out why it failed.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:33 am

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Maybe this is just my sense of idealism, but I believe that to truly get government reform means stripping ourselves of the traditional views of voting. If I vote for third party and convince one person who then convinces another, then convinces another we might have a chance.

i'm reminded of the reporter telling adlai Stephenson "you have the votes of all thinking people," to which adlai replied quick as lightning, "yes, but I need a majority to win."

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You cannot complain about the status quo and do nothing to fix it. And take none of the liberty or risk to do so. There isn't just Hilary and Trump. And maybe if a third party does win this election, it will make the government take a look of itself and try to figure out why it failed.

even if jill stein wins, she still will have to work with our balkanized congress. if GOPers blocked 99% of Obama's work, they surely would do similar with Jill.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:38 am

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Maybe this is just my sense of idealism, but I believe that to truly get government reform means stripping ourselves of the traditional views of voting. If I vote for third party and convince one person who then convinces another, then convinces another we might have a chance.

i'm reminded of the reporter telling adlai Stephenson "you have the votes of all thinking people," to which adlai replied quick as lightning, "yes, but I need a majority to win."

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You cannot complain about the status quo and do nothing to fix it. And take none of the liberty or risk to do so. There isn't just Hilary and Trump. And maybe if a third party does win this election, it will make the government take a look of itself and try to figure out why it failed.

even if jill stein wins, she still will have to work with our balkanized congress. if GOPers blocked 99% of Obama's work, they surely would do similar with Jill.


Oh I absolutely agree, Obama was cockblock by the GOP and I have no qualms that they would try to cockblock Jill Stein.

But I still stand by my belief that if a third party wins, it shake the government up enough for them to at least question themselves just a live.

I'm just frustrated with the current system. I don't care about what party anyone belongs to. They have to make intelligent, concise, and logical sense. I would have voted for Bernie, but we all knew where that went.

Trumps a lunatic. And an idiot.

Hilary, I just fear she'll focus on continuing the Orwellian nightmare we all fear



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22 Aug 2016, 12:52 am

re: billary versus The Rump- it is a choice of jumping into a frying pan, or into the fire. it is a negative option choice, if you don't choose one or the other, then somebody else will choose for you. which do you choose?



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22 Aug 2016, 12:53 am

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re: billary versus The Rump- it is a choice of jumping into a frying pan, or into the fire. which do you choose?


I'd still vote third party. I won't be a part of this system.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:58 am

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re: billary versus The Rump- it is a choice of jumping into a frying pan, or into the fire. it is a negative option choice, if you don't choose one or the other, then somebody else will choose for you. which do you choose?


I'd still vote third party. I won't be a part of this system.

then I regret to inform you that you likely will end up with somebody you won't like in any case. we are trapped in this system, there is no exit until the national character changes, and that won't happen in our lifetime. again, we need a majority of thinking people who vote, and this is not manifest at this time or in the foreseeable future. Bismarck said it in the 19th century but it still applies- "politics is the art of the possible." NOT the optimal. the problem is that there aren't enough americans that want to make it optimal.



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22 Aug 2016, 1:06 am

auntblabby wrote:
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re: billary versus The Rump- it is a choice of jumping into a frying pan, or into the fire. it is a negative option choice, if you don't choose one or the other, then somebody else will choose for you. which do you choose?


I'd still vote third party. I won't be a part of this system.

then I regret to inform you that you likely will end up with somebody you won't like in any case. we are trapped in this system, there is no exit until the national character changes, and that won't happen in our lifetime. again, we need a majority of thinking people who vote, and this is not manifest at this time or in the foreseeable future. Bismarck said it in the 19th century but it still applies- "politics is the art of the possible." NOT the optimal. the problem is that there aren't enough americans that want to make it optimal.


I don't think that's certain. Again my idealism. But I want change. I want something to fix itself because I am tired of a blame game. I want solutions and real problem solving. I am done fighting about who is right and who is wrong, what party someone is a part of or not.

I want real solutions. Not BS



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22 Aug 2016, 1:11 am

I useta be an idealist, until Ronnie raygun got elected because I voted third party.



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22 Aug 2016, 1:26 am

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I useta be an idealist, until Ronnie raygun got elected because I voted third party.


I know my idealism is irrational, but I know neither Trump nor Hilary are going to be good presidents. I fear a regime for those who are considered disabled under a Trump presidency. That's a scary possibility. And I know Hilary doesn't have the best interest out there either.

Ones an Orwellian Nightmare and the other does have a mocking comparison to Hitler.



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22 Aug 2016, 1:29 am

there is a difference between benign neglect and malignant hazard. I see in The Rump the same sadists who paddled me as a child to try to make me normal. I don't see that in billary.