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Greentea
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30 Sep 2007, 2:27 pm

In NT society, the less you lie the more of a suspect you become.


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01 Oct 2007, 4:03 am

I never lie about serious things. If I do something wrong I find it's much easier to be honest and admit that I messed up. Lying just causes terrible guilt and anxiety and is usually only a temporary way to avoid consequences.

I do sometimes make some minor stuff up when I tell a story. It’s never anything outrageous though. Sometimes I make little embellishments to make something easier to explain, or add details that I don't remember clearly. Other times I don’t even know why I change the story slightly. It's usually something minor. I know not to BS at all with certain things though (like when reporting something to the police or explaining symptoms to a doctor).



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01 Oct 2007, 4:52 am

I never lie about facts (though I sometimes leave out details to make a story simpler), but I've learned to lie about my feelings, either out of politeness or in order to ingratiate myself with a superior. Reading literature and arguing with myself have taught me to see most issues from several angles, and I usually pick the one that is most likely to appeal to the person I'm talking to. Sometimes I actually overdo it and then have to tell someone to stop bringing me something I only ever claimed to like because I wanted to be polite.



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01 Oct 2007, 4:57 am

Just last month I had an online friend (whom I've known for several years) tell me I have a horrible poker face, or rather my intentions are always very clear. We've never met in person so that is saying something I think. 8)



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01 Oct 2007, 5:40 am

Wrackspurt wrote:
Just last month I had an online friend (whom I've known for several years) tell me I have a horrible poker face, or rather my intentions are always very clear. We've never met in person so that is saying something I think. 8)


With poker I find that it's easier to pretend to be nervous when I have a good hand than to pretend to be confident about a questionable hand. So basically I just pretend I'm unsure of myself the whole time. Like I pretend to think hard before placing a bet even if it's obvious what I should do.



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01 Oct 2007, 7:43 am

I avoid lying but if i have to it tends to be pre-meditated, once I believe my lie is true everything is alot easier



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01 Oct 2007, 9:06 am

I'm not good at lying. I kind of lack the imagination to come up with the idea to lie, and to come up with lies to tell, and just cannot begin to imagine which ideas I might come up with, would be believable anyway. I also find the thought of lying uncomfortable. In fact I bore people stupid with pedantic details because I cannot begin to figure out which details are necessary to not mislead by omission, and which details are ancillary to communicating the point. I also do not think (even if someone else designed the lie for me) that I would perform the lie well. I'd know I was lying so I just do not think I'd have the audacity to pull it off. I do try to give a passing nod to social white lies in the form of misleading statements (ie in response to 'do you like my new top?' - 'I love the colour', or 'oh, I've seen those in the shop, when did get it?'....etc) but even this is very uncomfortable for me.

I think aspies tend to lack the social imagination and performance skills to be good liars, but also value truth highly. I guess things are often uncertain enough for us without adding unreality in the form of deceit to the mix.



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01 Oct 2007, 10:05 am

I will do little white lies to get people off my back about things sometimes.

One funny thing -- a lot of apparently NT people try to coax me into fudging things on my resume, or say that it's okay to slant things in your favor during job interviews.

I try to take this in the spirit intended; I know that sometimes people say this because a) it's common in the job market, and b) the people who tell me this apparently think I am a capable individual, and don't like to see me held back by myself or others because of my uninspiring work history

But even so, I just can't take the advice. I've never been good at exaggerating anything in my favor. It just doesn't "feel" right, and I'm convinced that any HR recruiter would see through it in an instant.



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02 Oct 2007, 2:52 am

Noa wrote:
One funny thing -- a lot of apparently NT people try to coax me into fudging things on my resume, or say that it's okay to slant things in your favor during job interviews.

I try to take this in the spirit intended; I know that sometimes people say this because a) it's common in the job market, and b) the people who tell me this apparently think I am a capable individual, and don't like to see me held back by myself or others because of my uninspiring work history

But even so, I just can't take the advice. I've never been good at exaggerating anything in my favor. It just doesn't "feel" right, and I'm convinced that any HR recruiter would see through it in an instant.

I find lying on one's resume highly immoral, and I was shocked when a recruiter suggested this to me! :x



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02 Oct 2007, 3:15 am

I am not a good liar and believe it is good that I am not. Some years ago I tried to lie about small things, just to see how it was to lie but I always ended up telling the person within half an hour *s* I cannot even lie about people's haircuts and such things, I say that it is not my style but that the important thing is that they do..

I can however lie about doing something I am going to do the same day.. But a good listener always sees me through on this too.. This is something I do to stop people from nagging at me, I hate nagging and if people nag, I cannot do what they told me to do because I get too angry.. This way I can do it when it fits me..



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02 Oct 2007, 5:00 pm

I'm probably not an aspie, so it might not be the same for you, but;
I can usually lie by twisting the truth e.g. 'I can't find my homework in my file' (cos i havnt dun it)
And when i do lie, im canny convincing, because noone expects me to, seeing as im so honest. :lol:



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02 Oct 2007, 5:09 pm

I do lie, mostly of the little white variety, but I'm not very good at it due to that big smile and giggle that appears when I do lie.

As for lying on your resume, I agree that it is utterly repugnant. Your own merits should be on display, not something that you cannot live up to.