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Hasn't anybody read "Flowers for Algernon"?

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12 Aug 2010, 6:36 pm

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Lawnmower Man (1992) and Phenomenon (1996) are a couple of films which used the theme of getting smarter. Interesting moral to all these stories - you'll become a freak to other people and pay a price. Funny how gaining intelligence/wisdom is portrayed as something negative, yet desiring wealth and ending up stonking rich is usually seen as such a great thing.


"the tall poppy is cut down."

Yeah, it's weird isn't it. I'm not sure, but I think non obvious kinds of smart are accepted. Socially smart people are prized. Book smart people can seem to go around making everyone else feel bad for not knowing enough. Applicable intelligence is another thing, using your intelligence to improve the lives of those around you, instead of learning to read Greek or something. Not that there's anything wrong (in my view) with learning Greek just for the sake of it, and it can be useful.

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Funny thing is, there have been times when I thought life might be easier if I was dumber, but then it turned out that it's the thing that I am dumb at - understanding other people's motives - which caused most of the problems. I didn't need a cure to realise that, just more information. I needed something to provide a perception that I was lacking.

Another thing: when I was a kid I was told I was very stupid (a lot), so I believed it.
It was quite confusing to find that Charlie became more like me, so I actually ended up thinking that everyone else in the world must be so much smarter, and that was why I didn't fit - and I went on thinking that until I was in my teens, when a couple of teachers recognised my misunderstanding and realised why I was always trying to do better. I guess I'd somehow assumed that most people had an IQ of around 300. :)


Heh. I had the same thing, I thought I was too smart for the people around me, but then was confused when people told me I was stupid, and also when I mostly failed school.


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12 Aug 2010, 8:00 pm

Did anybody notice how very much Charlie's unhappiness depends not on his mental retardation, but on the way his parents constantly told him that being abnormal was bad, that being retarded was bad, that he was defective and that this made him inferior--to the point that he was convinced his life would be perfect if he were smarter, and was willing to risk his life for a chance at it? His unhappiness had nothing to do with his mental retardation and everything to do with being rejected by society--as borne out by the fact that when he was rejected for being too smart, he became even more unhappy. It's a fascinating book, and really ahead of its time if you consider when it was written.


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12 Aug 2010, 8:21 pm

I read in in 7th or eighth grade for a class, but i can't remember much.



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12 Aug 2010, 8:33 pm

What a great book. I read it in grade 9, Really like how his language improves to so high a level, and then like an imploding star, deteriorates again. A very profound and moving read.



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12 Aug 2010, 9:13 pm

I read it a few years ago, I've been wanting to read it again. I want to see the movie. I tried to get my mom to read the book too but she didn't.


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12 Aug 2010, 9:27 pm

I really loved reading this book. I felt so touched reading it, because at the same time when I read it at 17, I felt I could relate. It's sad to see how having more knowledge than time and knowing what to do with it can really tear a person down.


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12 Aug 2010, 11:14 pm

I think that it's a great book, and I wouldn't mind reading it, again. :)


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13 Aug 2010, 12:02 am

I really liked it and I read it in 8th grade as part of the class. I also saw the movie Charley, which is an excellent movie.



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13 Aug 2010, 12:22 am

Kinda reminds me of "The Speed of Dark" which I hated.


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13 Aug 2010, 12:32 am

I read this also.


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13 Aug 2010, 2:11 am

I have mixed feelings about "Flowers for Algernon." I love the device of Charly's improving language skills. I hate that he isn't allowed any growth from his experience. It's terribly sad, but it also seems false to me. I do think the short story is better than the novel.

They made a Broadway musical based on it in 1980, which seems like a horrible idea to me. Dancing mouse. Here's the commercial:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8z7UVqjj8[/youtube]


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13 Aug 2010, 12:52 pm

a MUSICAL?

Is there NO taste or common sense left in the world?? Oy!



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13 Aug 2010, 7:46 pm

Read the book and saw the movie-very upsetting to me-shed tears over that story.


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17 Aug 2010, 11:12 am

Read it in 8th grade. Made me sad.


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