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20 Sep 2008, 6:49 pm

When I joined a new doctor's surgery a while back after moving areas I found out the main chunk of my medical records are lost. Included in these records are in depth documents about my AS, bad reactions to a whole host of meds etc etc.

I was put on prozac when I was about 14 and had a terrible reaction to it, this was done as a joint effort between my mum, the school doctor and my GP. It was never documented that I had a servere reaction to it as far as I know.

When I joined the new doctor they did not know what AS was and trying to explain it to a total skeptic in a 3 minute sesson is not an easy task. Now when ever I have to go with a physical issue, for instance I went a few months ago in agony with period pain, they try to prescribe me Prozac, as if it's a cure all for everything. Each time I refuse to accept it and am told thats the only treatment on offer. Since when was Prozac a painkiller?!?!?!?

I understand doctors are paid BIG money by drug companies for prescribing these things but that is verging on idiocy surly.

How am I supposed to get round this when I am actualy ill?



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20 Sep 2008, 7:02 pm

GET A NEW DOCTOR!! !! !! ! There are some things about you that only ONE person can answer, etc... and that person is YOU! If your doctor can't understand that, s/he is, BY DEFINITION. a QUACK!! !! GET OUT!

BTW There are a NUMBER of drugs that work like prozac and aren't related. In fact, there are at least 3 main classes of such drugs. And you're right. There are drugs to limit the flow of blood, the way it flows, muscle contractions, and pain.



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20 Sep 2008, 7:05 pm

Yeah I think I'll have to. It's hard though for me because the stress of having to explain everything to a new doctor and go through all the tests & stuff you have to have when you join a new practice is like a millitary manouver for me =/



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20 Sep 2008, 7:05 pm

This is crazy. If your doctor keeps trying to push pills on you that you are allergic to, then you need to get a new doctor!



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20 Sep 2008, 7:09 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
This is crazy. If your doctor keeps trying to push pills on you that you are allergic to, then you need to get a new doctor!


It seems whatever is not in the small ammount of "records" they have, never happened. My main NHS records never left my hometown and another surgery in another area I lived in failed to get them sent through.



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20 Sep 2008, 7:12 pm

miserylovescompany wrote:
Now when ever I have to go with a physical issue, for instance I went a few months ago in agony with period pain, they try to prescribe me Prozac, as if it's a cure all for everything. Each time I refuse to accept it and am told thats the only treatment on offer. Since when was Prozac a painkiller?!?!?!?


Prozac for cramps? That's really bizarre. I would try taking 3-4 Advil as soon as you feel the start of cramps (or even just if it has been 4 hours since the last time you took Advil). I used to be incapacitated for a day or so during each period with horrible pain, nausea, and vomiting, but taking 3 Advil at the first hint of cramps brings the pain down to a dull roar, or sometimes even eliminates it entirely. Good luck!


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20 Sep 2008, 7:14 pm

It's not just that, it would probably be any physical problem I went with. He sees my refusal to take it as "refusing treatment".

hmmm lol.



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20 Sep 2008, 7:20 pm

miserylovescompany wrote:
When I joined a new doctor's surgery a while back after moving areas I found out the main chunk of my medical records are lost. Included in these records are in depth documents about my AS, bad reactions to a whole host of meds etc etc.

I was put on prozac when I was about 14 and had a terrible reaction to it, this was done as a joint effort between my mum, the school doctor and my GP. It was never documented that I had a servere reaction to it as far as I know.

When I joined the new doctor they did not know what AS was and trying to explain it to a total skeptic in a 3 minute sesson is not an easy task. Now when ever I have to go with a physical issue, for instance I went a few months ago in agony with period pain, they try to prescribe me Prozac, as if it's a cure all for everything. Each time I refuse to accept it and am told thats the only treatment on offer. Since when was Prozac a painkiller?!?!?!?

I understand doctors are paid BIG money by drug companies for prescribing these things but that is verging on idiocy surly.

How am I supposed to get round this when I am actualy ill?


This has happened to me too. Now that my doctor knows I have had anxiety and have been on Celexa, she keeps pushing me to go and get counselling, and when I come in with genuine medical concerns she suggests counselling.

Perhaps you could shop around for another GP? I am also thinking of doing the same.


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20 Sep 2008, 7:45 pm

It's scary really because if we ever found a lump or a mole or any other major change in our bodies, that really needed checking out and they palmed us off with "happy pills" or "therapy" we could be dead in a matter of months.



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20 Sep 2008, 8:03 pm

You all are right.
I've just recently realized that my GP is a quack,
And that I've wasted years on someone who never really heard a word I said.

It's just so hard to get over the inertia when I'm depressed.

Ok, you've nudged me awake.
So now what? How do you find a good doctor?

"Are you a quack? Tell me the truth, now."

"Would you ever, under any circumstances, consider the remote
possibility that I'm an intelligent human? Or am I just another
lab rat, to be managed and humored?"

How do you get the truth out of someone with delusions of god-hood?



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20 Sep 2008, 9:20 pm

Switch doctors. Seriously.

Have you tried birth-control pills? They have been known to result in lighter periods. They worked for me; I can sit up now instead of having to lie down because of the dizziness. There are also birth-control methods that eliminate periods, but naturally they're a last resort because they mess with your hormonal balance.

I usually take a double dose of OTC painkiller; naproxen and ibuprofen both work for me, while acetominophen doesn't. The double dose is "prescription strength", about the strength of a pharmacy-distributed, doctor-prescribed version of the OTC painkiller. Many doctors will offer prescription-strength versions of what you can buy over the counter, but it's usually cheaper just to get the same dose by taking more pills.

Try different things; see what works. Don't do more than double your dose, and don't take double doses for more than a day. You could actually ask your doctor straight out: "At my body weight, how much can I safely increase the dose of painkiller X?"

Most of the things doctors will prescribe for your periods are basically double-strength over the counter painkillers anyway; they can't prescribe anything stronger than that, because using a narcotic painkiller frequently results in gaining a tolerance (and having the painkiller not work anymore) and possibly even becoming addicted--not something you want to mess with, especially since using it for cramps means playing with fire every month 'til menopause!


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20 Sep 2008, 10:30 pm

What a doctor is suposed to do is:

1. Read the chart, and relevant materials.
2. Take material standard tests that may have changed
3. Listen to YOU.
4. Confirm material items on the chart.
5. Discuss it with YOU.
6. Maybe take material non standard tests.
7. Make a diagnosis.
8. Discuss it with YOU!
9. Maybe take more tests.
10. Discuss it with YOU!

If the doctor doesn't discuss it WITH YOU, RUN! HECK, I recently had a CAT scan. I NEVER saw my doctor! What did THEY do?

1. Read the chart, and relevant materials.
2. Took tests to determine my system could handle the contrast.
3. Listened to ME.
4. Confirmed material items on the chart.
5. Discussed it with ME, and even asked if I was alergic to iodine, and if I had the test before.
6. Took the CAT SCAN.

NEXT week, my doctor will probably do what he did last year. That was:

1. Read the chart, and relevant materials.
2. Take material standard tests that may have changed
3. Listened to me.
4. Confirmed material items on the chart.
5. Discussed it with ME.
6. The normally non standard test area was the one above(cat scan). He actually ordered it last year as a normal test.
7. Made a diagnosis.
8. Discussed it with ME!

9 and 10 would have happened if the prognosis wasn't good. HECK, they iterate through that a lot on house.



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20 Sep 2008, 10:37 pm

I hope you find someone good.
i cannot believe you were pescribed prozac for cramps!! !! !! !!. that is just stupid. prozac is an anti-depressant not a pain killer.



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20 Sep 2008, 10:51 pm

miserylovescompany wrote:
I understand doctors are paid BIG money by drug companies for prescribing these things but that is verging on idiocy surly.


Whoa whoa.. say what?@! 8O .. that is a big red flag...

I never trusted doctors, but I guess I know why now.. :?



s**t... :x



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21 Sep 2008, 4:02 am

Callista wrote:
Switch doctors. Seriously.

Have you tried birth-control pills? They have been known to result in lighter periods. They worked for me; I can sit up now instead of having to lie down because of the dizziness. There are also birth-control methods that eliminate periods, but naturally they're a last resort because they mess with your hormonal balance.

I usually take a double dose of OTC painkiller; naproxen and ibuprofen both work for me, while acetominophen doesn't. The double dose is "prescription strength", about the strength of a pharmacy-distributed, doctor-prescribed version of the OTC painkiller. Many doctors will offer prescription-strength versions of what you can buy over the counter, but it's usually cheaper just to get the same dose by taking more pills.

Try different things; see what works. Don't do more than double your dose, and don't take double doses for more than a day. You could actually ask your doctor straight out: "At my body weight, how much can I safely increase the dose of painkiller X?"

Most of the things doctors will prescribe for your periods are basically double-strength over the counter painkillers anyway; they can't prescribe anything stronger than that, because using a narcotic painkiller frequently results in gaining a tolerance (and having the painkiller not work anymore) and possibly even becoming addicted--not something you want to mess with, especially since using it for cramps means playing with fire every month 'til menopause!


Had a bad reaction to them too. In fact they ruined my life. I never went back to normal after stopping taking them, my cycle is messed up and I now have terrible symptoms before it too. I've tried explaining this to the doctors but apparaltly I'm suffering from depression of course.