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This is - plainly spoken - a type of nonsense you find in esoteric groups of the extreme right. Hitler's biography is well known. He got his mad ideas from anti-semitic authors like von Liebenfels, how build their own strange mystic-racist ideology. This was roughly the period when "Arian" had been used the first time outside the description of Persians.

I never thought about it, but maybe, when I am 'altered' I tend to think and trance about very deep things my NT friends just goof off.

are you implying that I belong to any of such groups? I would be the last to join any of them, but I heard this theory for instance from members of the Gnosis Church in La Paz, and from a member from the Royal Geographic Society.

It is actually an insult to the Barvarian illuminati to equate their teaching with the nazis.

I do not, but there are groups in Germany how promote such idea, you find in internet-forums, open ones and closed, and there are different esoteric-extreme-right-wing-extremist groups which do promote such ideas.



To the opposite to most other societies granted a Royal Charter, the membership in Royal Geographic Society does not indicate any qualification at all or scientific merits ( http://www.rgs.org ), but is free for anyone for a charge. I also do not think that the membership of "Gnosis Church" does provide here any further qualification.

who says that their teachings equate the Nazis'?
He was taught by them (they say), but turned that knowledge to his darker interests, that is something else...

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The paper of the Bavarian Illuminatii are published and well known. The most of the papers are in the archive in Berlin, in the so-called "Geheimes Staatsarchiv Preußischer Kulturbesitz" - "Geheim" means secret, but this historical, anyone can visit and see the files. An other part is located since the war in Moscow, the Vol. XI of the so-called "Schwedenkiste" ("Swedish Box"). The contents of this Vol. XI is since the 1990s also known.

There are decades of serious research regarding the Illuminati. No one of the autors like "van Helsing" even tried to get access to the original documents.

Aurore, my ex has spent 8 years doing the same...... oh and the trances were not a reason for the break up.......

Mysticism used to be one of my obsessions. I learned "just about everything" about it LOL.

I did a lot of meditation and trance work.

Now, I just do it occasionally to calm my nerves. I have other obsessions now.

my gawd, Godwin's Law so early in the discussion??

Merle

for this particular discussion it was inevitable.

No.

However, individuals with an ASD have a higher incidence of adverse reactions [and also natural tolerance] with medications/drugs than the normal population, so it's always wise to start on a lower dose at first no matter what it is if you have an ASD.

Anti-psychotics are particularly prone to cause adverse reactions.

A novel theory occured to me when i read this last night, and seeing the various replies today hasnt shaken it.

autism has (rightly or wrongly) been associated with a reduced capacity for information travelling between the 2 hemispheres of the brain. One side is said to be ruled by the intellect, logic & rationalism. The other side is intuitive, here people draw knowledge from within. Ideally both sides will be equally active, complimenting each other but modern society is dominated by a bias.

I heard an amazing account recently of a woman who described in great detail here experience of having a stroke, during this her consciousness shifted from one hemisphere to the other.

If you consider aspie stereotypes, there is a tendancy towards rational thinking, obeying rules, seeking 'verified, provable' information from without. They will tend to rationalise or override the subtle ephiphanies produced by their intuition. But then on the other hand you have another aspie stereotype who are less organised, perhaps more artistic. They may have difficulty with aspects of concensus reality develop strengths in other, intuitive ways - they think its valid to seek knowledge from within, and not be bound by rationalism. Perhaps we can swap sides, or even work towards cohesion, but there will be a tendancy towards bias.

I slip into 'trances' fairly regularly, but unfortunately, I don't think they're ever supernatural in nature. I'm just a space case.

sinsboldly - good call, you beat me to it.