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09 Jul 2015, 10:21 am

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I'm fairly certain I mentioned that my little brother is autistic (and my husband, other relatives, friends, and mentors). I had to spend my teenage years pulling my little brother out of the back rooms of grocery stores and explaining to him why you can't throw a small animal like a baseball. My late brother and I had to take care of him because our mom wouldn't. And thank goodness he is autistic, or else I doubt he'd be able to take care of our mom, who is mentally ill. I could never be as kind and sensible as him. But people who are looking to get mad will find a way to get mad, I guess.

Which is the great puzzle piece of autism parents.


The fact that your mother wouldn't take care of him is unfortunate, but absolutely not representative of all other autism parents. You are still making generalisations, now with your assertion that autism parents are just looking for a reason to get mad. Autism parents are actually quite varied. I do not know what your brother looking after your mother has to do with the price of beans. Of course autistic people can be kind and sensible...nobody here has said they can't be and that has nothing to do with the situation we are talking about? (Not to mention the fact that NTs care for their mentally ill parents all the time...).


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13 Jul 2015, 5:24 pm

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What makes it an "autism screening" is that they leave dim lights on, turn down the sound, and they have laxer behavioural standards. My son can't sit still the whole time- he likes to get up to jump and flap his hands. He also occasionally makes a vocal stimming noise that sounds like "eeeeee!" when he's happy. He couldn't be in a regular theatre.

I've no objection at all to such events, but I think they should label them clearly. I have ASD and because of sensory issues I can't stand it when anybody is jumping about and squeaking near me, especially when I'm trying to focus on something like a play, which is difficult for me because it takes all the concentration I have just to follow the plot. So such an event would be horrible for me.

I guess there are two kinds of autism-friendly events - the Library type and the Liberty Hall* type. I'm sure there's a place for both in a civilised society.

*Liberty Hall, a nickname for a place where one is free to do as one wishes. A. Bertram Chandler's John Grimes novels frequently used the phrase, "Come In. This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard." (from Wikipedia)



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17 Jul 2015, 5:03 pm

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WelcomeToHolland wrote:
What makes it an "autism screening" is that they leave dim lights on, turn down the sound, and they have laxer behavioural standards. My son can't sit still the whole time- he likes to get up to jump and flap his hands. He also occasionally makes a vocal stimming noise that sounds like "eeeeee!" when he's happy. He couldn't be in a regular theatre.

I've no objection at all to such events, but I think they should label them clearly. I have ASD and because of sensory issues I can't stand it when anybody is jumping about and squeaking near me, especially when I'm trying to focus on something like a play, which is difficult for me because it takes all the concentration I have just to follow the plot. So such an event would be horrible for me.

I guess there are two kinds of autism-friendly events - the Library type and the Liberty Hall* type. I'm sure there's a place for both in a civilised society.

*Liberty Hall, a nickname for a place where one is free to do as one wishes. A. Bertram Chandler's John Grimes novels frequently used the phrase, "Come In. This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard." (from Wikipedia)


Oh I agree- ideally there should be two types. My husband, who we now know is also autistic, had to leave one of those autism screening things early because it was so obnoxious for him (I don't think 'obnoxious' is the right word either, but I can't think of a better one). He can handle OUR son's constant movement and vocalizing, but a bunch of kids doing at once? NO. LOL


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17 Jul 2015, 5:07 pm

I like to meet other "quiet" Aspies like myself. There were a few of them in the support group I used to attend.

So, when do loud kids with ASD turn into quiet adults with ASD? Or, is it all something else?


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17 Jul 2015, 6:46 pm

WelcomeToHolland wrote:
He can handle OUR son's constant movement and vocalizing, but a bunch of kids doing at once? NO. LOL

Social factors do seem to make a bit of difference to Aspie tolerance, yes. But in my case it's not much.

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So, when do loud kids with ASD turn into quiet adults with ASD? Or, is it all something else?

In my case, any loudness was beaten out of me while I was young, if I ever had any. Interesting question though. Do we grow / get conditioned out of it, or there are two Aspie noise-types? Or is it that we can stand our own noise but not other people's? If so, no wonder so many NTs don't like us. Hmmm...........



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17 Jul 2015, 6:48 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
WelcomeToHolland wrote:
He can handle OUR son's constant movement and vocalizing, but a bunch of kids doing at once? NO. LOL

Social factors do seem to make a bit of difference to Aspie tolerance, yes. But in my case it's not much.

AspieUtah wrote:
So, when do loud kids with ASD turn into quiet adults with ASD? Or, is it all something else?

In my case, any loudness was beaten out of me while I was young, if I ever had any. Interesting question though. Do we grow / get conditioned out of it, or there are two Aspie noise-types? Or is it that we can stand our own noise but not other people's? If so, no wonder so many NTs don't like us. Hmmm...........

I have always been quiet. I like it that way.


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17 Jul 2015, 6:54 pm

I was always the quiet type of Aspie kid. I was very withdrawn, especially in the presence of other children. I let them doing the running around wild (NT kids actually!) while I preferred to either stay well back or get the hell outta Dodge.



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17 Jul 2015, 7:16 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
I like to meet other "quiet" Aspies like myself. There were a few of them in the support group I used to attend.

So, when do loud kids with ASD turn into quiet adults with ASD? Or, is it all something else?


I don't think they usually do. Sometimes I guess. My husband was very quiet when he was a kid by all accounts, and one of ours kids is also very quiet (was from birth). That seems to be just one of their personality traits. I do not anticipate our younger son ever being quiet. Interestingly...We just came back from a camping trip on a secluded lake, and because of the way the forest went around the lake, it was very echoey. My younger son shrieks when he is happy (very loud, high-pitched shrieking) and the shrieks were really echoing around the lake. He HATED the echoes of himself shrieking. He wanted whoever was making all that noise to shut up (lol). When I finally managed to show him that HE was the one making that noise, he stopped shrieking almost entirely. He was the quietest I've ever seen him this week. Isn't that weird? He doesn't like the noise he makes....!


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28 Jul 2015, 4:06 am

Maybe they have had a lot of autistic kids in there with parents and had other parents complaining so they were trying to get them to all come in at one time. Maybe they were doing it for self interest to have fewer complaints or maybe they thought that parents of autistic kids would be less likely to complain about others kids. I don't know. Thats the only thing I can think of as to why they would do taht.


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