Speaking against ASAN akin to being Sacrilegious?

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Is speaking against ASAN if you have a form of autism akin to being sacrilegious?

The reason I say is because I think they are using peoples self-esteems in the wrong way. Even going up against otherwise creative expressions to help individuals who suffer from isolation in the media and calling it stigma that prevents their success. They call people marching for autism awareness bigots and of pity in protests. I think it's time to stand up to them because I don't want to go along with it and think it's wrong. Also I don't want to use womens rights against people to get my way in advocacy and they tend to make people feel persecuted to gain loyalty as if people hate people with autism who otherwise seem like they are helping. While discrimination does exist I think the methodologies of ASAN alienate more then potentially integrate people with autism who are otherwise not self-integrated like for instance Ari the President who would not loose to much if his leadership spoils social awareness of autism because he is very high functioning and can do it on his own..

I am going to be making a myriad of YouTube videos challenging ASAN to think about issues differently.

ASAN is one of the many representing parties concering autism with the sidenote of the majority of the members having autism themselves. I do think it could seem counter-intuitive to speak against 'your own' so to speak. They might have high regards in the public eye, but this doesn't mean I support them 100%.

I'm not really a person of picking sides.



p.s.:
I'm always happy to see someone playing the devil's advocate, keep it up!

I don't see how anyone could have high regards with the things they have said. Maybe bullied others into esteeming them as so with guilt. I strongly feel a different kind of awareness is needed to change lives. Not pride insulted at everything or else bigot mentality. How about love love and puppy chow. Like the warm and fuzzy in the movies.

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I think sometimes people are afraid of some kinds of emotion because it shows weakness. What others consider weakness in another person some want to shun as it makes another person like them feel like less of a person. I am still outraged at the behaviors of some of the ASAN protests. I am also very upset with Ari going up against autism isolation awareness as if people like that stigmatize him. Ari I believe should be confronted and not allowed to use abortion issues as a political shield. I really think it's time to stand up to ASAN and their very bad and destructive advocacy strategies.

That's why I will begin producing strong awareness pieces directed at ASAN explicitly instead of the entire self-advocacy community. Even though they call themselves THE Autistic Self-Advocacy Network they are not THE autism advocacy network of the U.S or the world. I don't believe people with autism should be forced to follow their agenda, expected to, presumed that they are and should be educated as to what they have done.

There is a balance that is needed.

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i speak out against the asan everyday and you know that,but i get no credit for it. ASAN mistake # 1. to much worrying about whether autism speaks is in favor of a cure and not talking about them promising one.if parent expose there children to polio,measles or small pox so they can be garentied to avoid autism then how is that different then LEATRILE.mistake #2 being so against autistic abortion but not advocating against the high rates of abortion in trisomy related disorders

Buh...? I don't see how disagreeing with ASAN is sacrilegious. It's probably an unpopular opinion on this board, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I disagree with them about prenatal testing, but otherwise I agree with most of their aims. At least it actually gives autistic people a voice, unlike Autism Speaks.

Yeah some of the things ASAN talks about I used to talk about and want. Like the school accommodations. Yet I think they create to much anger and hatred between people by being mal-interpretive.

What does ASAN mean and what does ASAN stand for?

No, for two reasons.

Having autism is not the same as joining a group related to autism. So it's not akin to being a member of a church.

Second, it would be akin to speaking out against what one disagrees with in a church, which isn't the same as being sacrilegious.

I thought ASAN was the church of autism self-advocacy.

Church Rules

We cannot show weakness.

We must be proud and anything otherwise is a mental health disease like depression within an individual.

Negatives about autism must be kept to yourself.

If you support a cure then you are a bigot.

Hope solely depends on anti-cure.

If you challenge the leader you get kicked out.

Neurotypicals are the sole reason for the oppression of myself and my kind.

Keep critical thinking a hidden mystery for the sake of political directive.

Mr. Vermont your name was never mentioned in my reply. The idea is to make people think. To think outside of the pride box and then back inside both the traditional and pride advocacy boxes. Meaning try to see both sides. This website is more so pride but is no where near as blinded by pride then others. People that feel they are hated by things which obviously they are not. Bingo. Somehow you came up here on this post and feel you are hated.

When people think they are hated when they are not it is a tricky deli-ma. In the case of ASAN that feeling goes overboard and they accuse good people of terrible things. Things that just don't add up.

I don't know ASAN but I do agree with their previous actions against Tony Attwood http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt103089.html

If ASAN are annoyed by and oppose the fact that most organisations and information focussing on the issues of parents and carers I sympathise with that too. Not that I am against any support that parents and carers get but I am over being talked about and treated as if Aspergers annuls my status as a human being.

That's tricky because a disability label is something that is perceived as a disorder but at the same time a person is born that way such as myself. While I don't agree with most everything lacking dignity treatment itself deserves it's own rights and dignity in portrayal. That is to say autism the disability label needs to be portrayed as a disability and individuals have the right to dignity in it being perceived as a disability they want corrected. At the same time some portrayals can go a little to far. To say autism can be a jail cell of isolation for instance and another person calling that stigma or dehumanizing is in fact not as an example.