Working out and gaining weight

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Is this kind of like how "anecdotally", black people are lazy?
The truth of the matter is never contingent on majority stereotyping of minorities.

An athletic friend of mine swears by this site for newbs
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

Also, soy protein has the same PDCAAS as whey protein.

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I gained about 45 pounds in three months eating ramen noodles.
I'm wheat-free now anyway, which is hard because I love enriched carbs,
but I stay away from it like no other food.

try a combo of smaller more frequent meals, eating more slowly and punctuating each bite of food with a swallow of water or other local flavorful drink. give your stomach a better chance to register fullness. just a thought.

Eh...I'm not aiming to be a bodybuilder. I don't really like the concept of bodybuilding really. I mean, there's cool, strong bodybuilders, but I do not like the fact that it's about aesthetics. I'm aiming for strength and agility, and I figure how I look will take care of itself. IE, I'm quite happy with the progress my arms have made even though I do almost no arm isolation exercises. I'm into figure skating right now, and currently do some powerlifting type exercises to supplement it, but I'm beginning to be taken with lifting. Clean and jerks are seriously fun. But yeah, for building
power I'm not convinced a vegan diet would be conductive to that.

As far as stereotypes go, and judgments by minorities by the majority, well, no, they're never completely right, but to completely ignore them is just as dumb as swearing by them for everything. So, I'll leave that discussion at that.

The way I see it, neither extreme is good for you, either being a strict vegan or being one of those crazy paleo people. The problem with vegan stuff is it's simply too hard to get ALL your nutrients from plants, it's not sustainable. You either have to take supplements, or just play a balancing act of eating like, the exact correct ratio of specific plants and stuff. It's simply too involved and impractical for me. And as far as animals go, I like them, but I'm not really too squeamish about eating them. My mother, for example, freaks out like crazy if I bring a fish home with it's head on that I have to butcher myself, I don't care. Ideally, in my utopian society, diets would be like 70-80% plant based. I'd reduce meat to only being from small local farms and hunting, because yes, the amount of meat eaten in the industrialized world is insane. However, I think for a vast number of reasons, a strictly vegan diet for your entire life is just as impractical as going on a paleo diet. That, and I tend to in social situations and with other people, just eat what they give me. Even Buddha, a vegetarian, advocated eating meat when others offered it to him.

BTW, I do plan to switch to soy protein, as the problem with whey protein is the fact that it's from dairy causes issues in itself. People complain that soy raises estrogen levels, dairy I think is a whole much worse ballgame than with soy. Plus the soy protein in particular I want has actual sugar in it, and not sucralose.

But, my point still stands, that I believe being a strict vegan is vastly impractical.

Meat consumption is even more extreme in Brazil than in the U.S. I also find it interesting that their women are considered among the most beautiful in the world (a conclusion that wouldn't necessarily jump to mind after my first sentence). I think the emphasis on veggie diets in the U.S. is overplayed. If you believe all the hype, apparently you'll physicially and mentally become a god among men and live forever if you just avoid eating beasts.

It's really no more complicated than keeping proper ratio on any other diet, IE, protein, carbs, fiber, etc.


It's really not impractical. Inconvenient, sure, if one is hellbent on eating stereotypical Western meals, hence all the "faux" animal products on the market for newbs. But I agree, about dairy. I'd go so far as to say dairy's worse for you than meat.