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Soon
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25 Feb 2008, 4:21 pm

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Hi Soon,

How are you doing? Thanks for your interest in the idea for the boxing team. We had some good discussion on the thread. I am glad to see that a few guys want to participate.

Do you have any ideas about what we should do next?

Thanks.

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Hey thanks. I like these ideas. Would you like to post them on the thread some more thoughts

well fist we should see where every one is located.

second we should see how meany weight class are coverd.

then look at exparence,

see if everyone has a trainer or support, if not get then hooked up with one,

try to get a expostionbition fight set up, with PR. Autism awarness and so on,

get sponcers for travel/expences,

set up fights with green boxers/ or with boxer with 2 or less years,

more PR

find a location where every one can get to once a month to train to gether. other than their regular trainging. to get to know each other, and see what we have for a team.

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aries
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27 Feb 2008, 8:14 pm

gekitsu wrote:

the jab is a mighty thing...

we once did a sparring drill in muay thai that involved one sparring partner being allowed to kick only (well, roiundhouses, no push kicks, for obvious reasons), the other one being restricted to boxing only.
my turn boxing, against one of our best kickers, i caught exactly two bruises on my left arm (blocking one kick that hit both my upper and lower arm, and part of my lat) and from there, could keep hunting him with barrages of jabs, blocking him off with a hook whenever he tried to step out to the side.
as his kicks need proper distance and some longer time than a punch (heavier leg travelling more distance et al.), once inside, its absolutely possible to never let him come to kicking range again. its frustrating, though, as you are not likely to score any substantial hits on a backpedalling, constantly evading target. thats why i think that a sound boxer can beat a kickboxer. its full muay thai rules where the boxer will inevitably be wrecked, for the jab is complemented by the push kick, that is often used as a foot jab or to keep people out of reach, and there are elbows in infight. so, the boxers range is bracketed by very effective attack ranges for the muay thai guy.

So you guys weren't allowed to clinch then? In full thai rules I'd expect the clinch and knees element to be to the achilles heel for the boxer. It's very hard to punch when in the full plumb clinch but you can knee the other guy to oblivion. Also didn't the kicker try and keep you off with leg kicks? I always had this problem against the better kickers in MT when I switched from boxing. They'd just take out my front leg as soon as I came forward with any weight on it.

I wouldn't mind doing the aspie boxing team but I don't know about practicalities of it as I'm the UK! I'd have to start training boxing again too.

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28 Feb 2008, 11:21 am

aries: yeah, it was a pure hitting drill. leg kicks were an issue but then, theres recovery time - thetime it takes for a kick to the ribs to get back down to earth is usually enough to maneuver in and deliver some punchwork... and well, once youre in, the other guy is in trouble.

id say its not only the clinch that will put a boxer in a bad situation under full mt rules, but the multitude of ranges - the boxer is well-versed in one range, but the thai boxer is trained in delivering heavy hits in both larger and closer ranges than the boxer - plus has more effective means of forcing his opponent around certain ranges like keeping them at bay with push kicks or holding them close in the clinch. i guess there are kinds of boxers who can feel their way around a clinchy situation quite well, lets not forget that just outside clinch range, were talking elbows.

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28 Feb 2008, 4:56 pm

Part of my problem is using my reach correctly. I am a tall guy (around 6"3, 190 lbs) with very long arms and legs, and I have difficulty getting my range right, and get hit a lot because of it. If I can keep someone out of my range then I don't even get hit, but I have a hard time defending against guys who press in and unload against me. My long arms are not that useful for dirty boxing, and I mostly rely on using my jab/cross, and kicks because I have powerful legs. I feel like I have all the tools, but I can't put them together well enough to really be effective against anyone with fighting experience that is close to my size or bigger.

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28 Feb 2008, 6:05 pm

Soon,

Thanks for posting those ideas. Count me in. Here is some of my info.

I'm in Chicago, Illinois USA. I'm at 195 now. I used to box at 178, but with lifting weights a lot and working to add muscle, trying to box at 178 now is probably unrealistic for me.

I train at a gym in Chicago. I get some individual sessions with our trainer sometimes. That helps me focus on technique and lets me get some sparring in with the other guys at our gym.

I like the idea about improving awareness.

Getting together once a month would be great. I'd love to connect with other Aspie boxers in the Chicago area. It seems like we have a few guys here who are interested. I don't know where everyone is located, except for Aries--he mentioned recently he's in the UK. Thanks.

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28 Feb 2008, 6:24 pm

aries wrote:

I wouldn't mind doing the aspie boxing team but I don't know about practicalities of it as I'm the UK! I'd have to start training boxing again too.

Hey aries,

That's great. Just having the interest at this point is a good start. Obviously, there are lots of details to work out, but Soon's recent post lists some of his ideas to get us organized.

It would be great if we could have some bouts as part of an autism/Asperger's awareness campaign. Raising funds for education, public information, and accommodations would be very useful, I think.

Also, I have no doubt all you guys would fearsome boxers and fierce competitors. I'm sure glad I would be on your team.

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Space
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28 Feb 2008, 11:18 pm

I am in Canada, but if I was near chicago I would definitely come train with you guys.

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29 Feb 2008, 12:44 am

Space wrote:

I am in Canada, but if I was near chicago I would definitely come train with you guys.

Sweet. Consider yourself invited to join us if you're ever in town.

What part of Canada? I have a good friend in Ottawa and have business interests in North Vancouver.

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29 Feb 2008, 6:22 pm

I am 106 to 120 alittle on the fat side have to get in to better shape. my pic is about the same size I am now. So I would be the feather fly weight. sounds funny doesn't it. light as a feather. I will be moving to AZ, from ME usa. I'll start compiling all the data of us.

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01 Mar 2008, 1:30 pm

Space wrote:

The key is footwork and jab. Got to use a pulverizing jab to kind of ram-rod guys off you, and use it to set up your power shots.

Even pro fighters that are tall, a lot of them don't know how to use their height and reach advantage effectivly.

I see them chasing after smaller fighters, or fighting at close range where their heigh advantage means nothing and their longer arms become ineffective at close range.

Ali was real good in his prime at using his height and reach and dancing around opponents. When got older and his legs weren't what they use to, had the same problems you did, with guys that bullied in on him, naimly Frazier.

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04 Mar 2008, 3:16 am

GrantZilla wrote:

Space wrote:

The key is footwork and jab. Got to use a pulverizing jab to kind of ram-rod guys off you, and use it to set up your power shots.

The jab is so important. I don't think its importance can be overstated. Ever since I was a boy, I have learned that the jab is the most important punch. Against the kind of guys Space is describing, I have found it helpful to follow multiple left jabs with a very hard right hand to keep them from pressing in and attacking. I don't usually have the height or reach advantage, but do face an opponent who is about the same height fairly often. The jab is an essential element of both my offense and defense.

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31 Jul 2008, 1:39 am

[bump]

Any more interest in this?

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strapshoechris
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31 Jul 2008, 9:08 am

I love boxing as a spectator, but with my wrestling background I doubt I would be much good as a participant because my instinct would be to "tie up" with my opponent and not punch. Still I would gladly volunteer to be an athletic trainer at an Aspie boxing event. I'm good at tying hi-top shoelaces and also stuffing gauze up nostrils...

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05 Aug 2008, 9:22 am

Hi strapshoechris,

We could certainly use a trainer. Indeed, even if you were there cheering for our boxers, that would be awesome. Thanks!

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strapshoechris
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05 Aug 2008, 6:46 pm

Thanks, Steve. On a recent roadtrip I spotted a wax statue of Cassius Clay, got all excited, and had to pose for some pics...
http://img59704.pictiger.com/images/16325280/

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