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05 Sep 2008, 10:34 pm

I think I have figure a way to eradicate HIV for good. An abzyme was created by Sudhir Paul, Ph.D, and Yasuhiro Nishiyama, Ph.D that destroys a key part of the HIV virus. That part of the virus is called gp120 CD4 binding site, the abzyme destroys this part and renders the virus harmless. This part of the virus does not mutate thus it has been called the virus's main weakness.

Now there is a problem it will be hard enough treating one person with this abzyme since it is man made let alone over six billion people. However if we make a virus that tells the body to make the abzyme itself then its possible for the abzyme to be effective cure that can eradicate the HIV virus from the human body. However making enough viruses is even start makes this plan a no go it won't work, unless you have bacterial make the viruses for you. I suggest modifying the bacteria found in yogurt since the body does not attack that, by taking the bacteria orally they can get in the digestive system multiple while spreading the virus. By using this method we can be sure that people will become infected with the abzyme virus and produce the virus.

Because the virus is produced by bacteria it can be put into food, which would make curing people easy and vaccinating people easy also. This will make it cheap to get going and if the virus can be spread by sex then it will spread even faster. If done right the virus could spread all over the world in as little as a year.


Please I would love some feedback thanks.


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05 Sep 2008, 10:52 pm

Infect a couple thousand with this virus, make it airborne and very very resilient so that it can be passed through surfaces.


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05 Sep 2008, 11:09 pm

Strapples wrote:
Infect a couple thousand with this virus, make it airborne and very very resilient so that it can be passed through surfaces.


But if it goes air borne wouldn't there be a great chance the body would reject the abzyme and attack it??


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06 Sep 2008, 1:20 pm

philosopherBoi wrote:
Strapples wrote:
Infect a couple thousand with this virus, make it airborne and very very resilient so that it can be passed through surfaces.


But if it goes air borne wouldn't there be a great chance the body would reject the abzyme and attack it??


rejection risk is low especially since it will continually mutate


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06 Sep 2008, 3:26 pm

Yeah your right ^_^

Anyways I was thinking the poor should be the first to be treated as they 1.) have a greater risk to contract the HIV virus, 2.) Have less treatment options than other people 3.) have restricted access to healthy foods, and supplements like multi-vitamins. The next that should be treated are teenagers, since STDs are rising in this group we uses their promiscuous nature to spread the virus.


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06 Sep 2008, 5:14 pm

That seems like a really good idea.

I suppose the probelm with having a second continually mutating virus though is that it's possibe it would mutate into something else malevolent, and you'd have to be able to stop it from doing that. But daym! That's a good idea.


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06 Sep 2008, 7:34 pm

just_ben wrote:
That seems like a really good idea.

I suppose the probelm with having a second continually mutating virus though is that it's possibe it would mutate into something else malevolent, and you'd have to be able to stop it from doing that. But daym! That's a good idea.



Thanks you ^_^.


Anyways there are a few ways to prevent the abzyme from becoming a threat.

1.) take away its ability to copy itself, instead give it only the ability to tell the body to produce abzyme, but this will dramatically increases production costs and lowers success rate but it will keep it from mutating into a threat.

2.) Make the virus in a way the body does not see it as a threat, by doing this, the virus has no reason to mutate into something different.

3.) Make the virus, so that it can only replicate, and recode, nothing more, you know take away its ability to mutate.

I would also like to point out the next part of this idea. If the virus has the ability to spread via sex it can cut down on costs, and accelerate the virus infecting everyone. Which means if one person gets the treatment that one person could give the virus to two more sexual partners in one day who in turn give it to four more different who don't have the abzyme people and so on. In two weeks that number would grow to 16,375 people cured of HIV, and protected against it as well. Now instead of one person getting this treatment and spreading the treatment via sex lets say 1,000,000 people are given the virus and it follows the same pattern.

So if we change the amount of people who get the virus from the start from one to one million in two weeks 16,357,000,000 could be cured and protected of the virus in two weeks if the variables don't change at all.


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06 Sep 2008, 8:26 pm

viruses mutate. The last thing you would ever want to do is unnecessarily infect someone with a virus



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06 Sep 2008, 10:01 pm

Dasha wrote:
viruses mutate. The last thing you would ever want to do is unnecessarily infect someone with a virus


Well they are already using viruses to treat brain disorders, same thing except this virus would need to be able to infect more than oner person. I won't deny that it poses a risk of mutation, however no matter how much it mutates it would never cause as much suffering and death as HIV. HIV belongs to the retro virus class, retro viruses are the most deadly many can kill you in an hour, I think the gains out weigh the risks. HIV is one of the weakest retroviruses known to man.

Right now they are working on using not just viruses but bacteria and yeast to help fight decease in a variety of ways. Do you think human trials would be carried out if they were afraid of these things mutating and turning against they body they were made to protect??


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