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06 Oct 2008, 2:53 am

Yo people what is Zeolite, is it dangerous to ingest etc, and what are its medical applications if it has any?


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06 Oct 2008, 5:00 am

Snake oil, the only medical use for zeolite is in oxygen production, and for an anticloting agent QuikClot.
If the claims of something like this sound to good to be true, then its most likely false.
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06 Oct 2008, 5:53 am

I have been trying to explain to a mother of an autistic child that this stuff does not work but she refuses to believe unless I give her proof I swear she is driving me up the wall.


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06 Oct 2008, 12:47 pm

philosopherBoi wrote:
I have been trying to explain to a mother of an autistic child that this stuff does not work but she refuses to believe unless I give her proof I swear she is driving me up the wall.


How do you know it doesn't work?

As far as I'm aware it's relatively safe, but I've heard mixed results from it. I'd just check with a practitioner who's worked with it before for guidance and as with everything, make sure you know what you're doing and that you're using a totally pure, high-quality product.


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06 Oct 2008, 1:05 pm

Zeolite is essentially dirt - plain, ordinary rock dust.


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06 Oct 2008, 3:17 pm

There's far more to dirt than one kind of mineral!!


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06 Oct 2008, 3:58 pm

Zeolite is a mineral (a type of aluminosilicate) used for water purification and oxygen production, and appears to be a mild irritant. I cannot find anything at all in the peer-reviewed on zeolite and autism - there do not appear to be any peer-reviewed clinical studies of this. Any claims that it has some effect on autism have no published scientific evidence to back them up.


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06 Oct 2008, 4:09 pm

pbcoll wrote:
Zeolite is a mineral (a type of aluminosilicate) used for water purification and oxygen production, and appears to be a mild irritant. I cannot find anything at all in the peer-reviewed on zeolite and autism - there do not appear to be any peer-reviewed clinical studies of this. Any claims that it has some effect on autism have no published scientific evidence to back them up.

Then Zeolite may as well be dirt.

That kid's mom is essentually forcing him to eat dirt to cure her own anxiety.


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06 Oct 2008, 4:43 pm

Fnord wrote:
pbcoll wrote:
Zeolite is a mineral (a type of aluminosilicate) used for water purification and oxygen production, and appears to be a mild irritant. I cannot find anything at all in the peer-reviewed on zeolite and autism - there do not appear to be any peer-reviewed clinical studies of this. Any claims that it has some effect on autism have no published scientific evidence to back them up.

Then Zeolite may as well be dirt.

That kid's mom is essentually forcing him to eat dirt to cure her own anxiety.

I wonder if it's working.


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06 Oct 2008, 5:31 pm

LeKiwi wrote:
philosopherBoi wrote:
I have been trying to explain to a mother of an autistic child that this stuff does not work but she refuses to believe unless I give her proof I swear she is driving me up the wall.


How do you know it doesn't work?

As far as I'm aware it's relatively safe, but I've heard mixed results from it. I'd just check with a practitioner who's worked with it before for guidance and as with everything, make sure you know what you're doing and that you're using a totally pure, high-quality product.

well for one thing, there's no scientific proof that it works. don't give me all that "pharmaceutical industry suppressing studies/corrupting studies" crap, there's no scientific reason for this to work. there's no way for it to dissolve in water in any significant concentration, meaning it won't pass into your blood, and it'll just pass right through you.

you can go on and spout any pseudoscientific "explanation" you want for it but the bottom line is that there is no proof that it actually works other than word of mouth, which is as unreliable as it gets.

that being said, it doesn't address the main problem with your post: "how do you know it doesn't work?"

the problem is that asking that question is utterly pointless. you should not be asking "how do you know it doesn't work?" but "how do you know it works?". i'll ask you something, how do you know that ingesting ground cedar root doesn't cure autism? i might know someone who gave that to their autistic child and they suddenly "recovered", does this mean that it's an effective cure for autism? god no. the point is that the burden of proof should be on those who sell the product, not those who dismiss it. unless you can prove it works, there's no reason to buy it, sell it, endorse it, or give it any time of day, it'll just waste people's money.



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06 Oct 2008, 5:44 pm

^^ Well said.


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