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19 Feb 2013, 10:00 pm
Sarah81 wrote:
Well, I can't say that ginseng doesn't help in schizophrenia. But things I noted about this website were:
There was no peer-reviewed article referenced. The author had watched a presentation at a conference only, so in order to check facts we would have to contact the presenters. There were also no other references - i.e. none of the 'facts' of this web article were referenced.
There were also more questions than answers - for example was it a double blind study or did the practitioners know who was getting the placebo and who wasn't? And were the placebos randomly assigned? How large was the sample size? and so forth.
The claim was that the study indicated that ginseng worked on brain receptors. Even if the study showed conclusively that ginseng had an effect on the negative symptoms in this case, it certainly didn't show how the ginseng worked. All of the patients were getting anti-psychotic treatment - perhaps the ginseng had an impact on some other aspect of the body functioning, which then improved the performance of the anti-psychotics? Maybe the ginseng caused thirst, which caused the patients to drink more water, which therefore improved their negative symptoms. Maybe it acted as an energiser, which got the patients moving, and this increased activity affected the negative symptoms.
Be careful about the information you get online (including info from random hypomanic bloggers such as myself...)
There was no peer-reviewed article referenced. The author had watched a presentation at a conference only, so in order to check facts we would have to contact the presenters. There were also no other references - i.e. none of the 'facts' of this web article were referenced.
There were also more questions than answers - for example was it a double blind study or did the practitioners know who was getting the placebo and who wasn't? And were the placebos randomly assigned? How large was the sample size? and so forth.
The claim was that the study indicated that ginseng worked on brain receptors. Even if the study showed conclusively that ginseng had an effect on the negative symptoms in this case, it certainly didn't show how the ginseng worked. All of the patients were getting anti-psychotic treatment - perhaps the ginseng had an impact on some other aspect of the body functioning, which then improved the performance of the anti-psychotics? Maybe the ginseng caused thirst, which caused the patients to drink more water, which therefore improved their negative symptoms. Maybe it acted as an energiser, which got the patients moving, and this increased activity affected the negative symptoms.
Be careful about the information you get online (including info from random hypomanic bloggers such as myself...)
That's why I'm seeking more information. There has got to be something out there that increases affect, maybe something that stimulates emotions or the amydala. Something besides ecstasy.
My mom talked me out of trying estrogen boosters. lol
BTW don't take this the wrong way, but you write just like I do when I have what may be the hypomanic states. So I wonder if there is something to it with me.
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