Do Aspies see how fake Lady Gaga is?

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whoaa, can we be a bit less confrontational please? First off, you misunderstood me. I never said only writing music makes you a musician, so I don't know where you got that from. I meant that having knowledge of music theory does not make you a musician. You need to know how to apply that knowledge in an artistic way to be a true musician. Any half brain-dead pop star could string chords together, but that doesn't make them a musician to me. They also probably don't know any theory beyond a ii IV V I, or the like.

I'm a classical pianist, have been for 20 years, and I don't write all that much, but I do consider myself a musician. I know the theory, and I know how to apply it to the music I play. I just earned an undergrad in classical piano from DePaul, so I do have a good idea of what I'm talking about.

Same here.

I like what skafather said and I love what Bill Hicks screamed.

Same here as well but I despise most singers as role-models

I'm not sure I get what you mean by "apply that knowledge in an artistic way".

asp-z.

Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny"

Hipsters are too mainstream

Now that's a mindf**k

There is a difference between playing like a robot and playing like a human. You can take your basic modulation, and play the new section and play it with the exact same disposition as the original key. You might as well listen to a MIDI interpretation. If you're a true musician, you'd recognize the modulation as an entrance into a totally different emotional state or landscape. This is what I mean by an artistic application of theoretical knowledge. There are plenty of other examples I could think of that wouldn't fit in one post.

She's interesting. Writes catchy stuff. Has some cool videos.

That's about it.

And, um, AHEM, as someone people would likely call a hipster,
I spit on the idea that somebody a buncha people like is CONTROLLING them somehow.

I'm a big Gaga fan - that is a fan of her as an artist and as a brand.

Her music is a good example of pop - she has great musical talent, a lot of her songs are rubbish but there are enough there that are such great examples of pop that they do very well, and they do so because they're good not just because of her die-hard fans. I like her because she is fake, she has used previous artists such as Madonna and Michael Jackson as a template to build herself upon, she's a pop icon and a living breathing statement on celebrity culture, pop culture, music culture and fashion.

She's smart because everything she does is fake so her image isn't her as a person but as a statement - you'll rarely see images or hear stories about her that she doesn't want you to know about, her use of the media is staggering and it does mimic Jacksons micky-take of the media by being purposefully eccentric and outrageous to make her a less-than-real character thus cementing her in the media and in the history books...and it's that character you see, never her...she is no longer a person, which is her art. She went from being a performer in New York, arts school, song writer - which in itself is impressive, but to achieve all she has is amazing.

She blatantly advertises anything and everything, yet still manages to maintain integrity by making this part of her branding and she does this impeccably, most other artists bring out scents or clothing lines, where as Gaga has managed to get herself into everything. She uses her following of little monsters to promote positive messages - for example don't ask don't tell, which I'm guessing is a major thing to go up against in the US, she did so in an annoying way but she still does more with her fame than most, and has a major cultural influence.

Lots of things about her annoy me to no end - she doesn't need to go as far as wearing a meat dress, that was a ridiculous move that she really didn't need to do at the peek of her career, the egg thing to me was like when stars start to wear those massive sunglasses once fame goes to her head...but hell it shows some serious commitment to her art to stay in that thing for so long!

So....I'm the only one who suspects she may be an aspie then?
No, not just for the eccentric behaviour.

I think she is a good pop musician, and I listen to her sometimes when I get bored of what I usually listen to (which is prog rock and metal). I also admire that she seems more invested in the cause of LGBT rights than just about any other celebrity at the moment; it doesn't look to me like it's strictly a PR thing, and I think she really cares (hence "Alejandro" and "Born This Way" and all of her speeches about LGBT issues).