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Do Aspies see how fake Lady Gaga is?

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05 Apr 2011, 10:54 pm

She is not a role-model to emulate I would like to see that slu*ty persona equate to greatness and prominence in our society outside of certain artistic circles and creative industries because it doesn't do anything but alienate people. Fact of the matter it makes you undignified and even though Lady Gaga is in the correct career field if she was to be this indiscreet, the general consensus doesn't really respect her.

They consider her a rehash of Madonna who like I said before is herself a rehash of underground theater from the 1960's along of the showmanship of Glam Rockers only taking it to a much more explicit level. Gaga doesn't do much to expand on it. Honestly she is popular because most brash youth look at her superficially thinking she represents something of merit when a thorough background check will showcase that she was a spoiled heiress who got lucky by building up a persona in the burlesque scene in New York attempting things that Queen, David Bowie, and even Madonna had already accomplished. We have seen through Twilight, Family Guy, and this among things that epitomize the argument that the most popular things are indeed overrated.

Honestly I'm surprised aspies give her respect because I considered and still do that we are more perceptive about certain things. Including someone who obviously doesn't epitomize anything laudable. I thought this society would have more common sense not to appreciate fetish loving, meat wearing, shallow, conceited pop star.



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05 Apr 2011, 11:10 pm

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I also admire that she seems more invested in the cause of LGBT rights than just about any other celebrity at the moment; it doesn't look to me like it's strictly a PR thing, and I think she really cares (hence "Alejandro" and "Born This Way" and all of her speeches about LGBT issues).

It's because she has a penis :ncool:

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Honestly I'm surprised aspies give her respect because I considered and still do that we are more perceptive about certain things. Including someone who obviously doesn't epitomize anything laudable. I thought this society would have more common sense not to appreciate fetish loving, meat wearing, shallow, conceited pop star.

I suspect it's because of the LGBT thing, some think she exhibits some Aspie characteristics, she dares to be different, plus some of us are really into pop music As I've said before; I like her music but I do NOT think she is a wholesome person who should be imitated but I think most celeb are horrible role-models


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05 Apr 2011, 11:56 pm

I sincerely doubt that anyone who is a pure-madonna imitation would be an Aspie, usually Aspies take the initiative with their sense of ingenuity to create new things, she hasn't done anything. Her eccentric characteristics are not daring to be different, Madonna was just as daring. Sure we should be different/unique that would be beneficial if society has unique ideas there can be more ideas that would be bound to move society forward.

She is not moving society forward there were in-roads to get away from this superficial glam scene during the nineties, shes just resurrecting what was popularized in the eighties by Madonna and the flamboyant, moody themes of that era. Seeing how many adolescents are romanticizing with the eighties her popularity might be derived from the fact that she is reminiscent of that era. By the way people with Aspergers are unique but pop-music isn't so I see this as a contradiction. :?



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06 Apr 2011, 10:53 pm

i have to admit most of her popular songs are pretty silly with not much lyrical weight/context/ meaning for me to truly appreciate. however, i do believe that she is an artist, a performer who will go down one way or another as a legend from these years. her latest song has a pretty strong message and of course has only attracted more discussion about her and her "ulterior" motives which i find that most people are just spinning their wheels on the same s**t repeatedly. so personally im on the fence about her. on one hand, she will definitely have a loyal fan base for the rest of her years, and on the other hand, others will never care or want to care to hear anything about gaga ever again. opinions are just like assholes, everyone has one. its all good or its all gaga. :lol:



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07 Apr 2011, 12:50 pm

Her music isn't my sytle but why on earth would someone wear a dress made of meat :?: :?:

She just doesn't make sense to me.


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07 Apr 2011, 10:49 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wTyMiD3aew[/youtube]

Why is youtube embedding broken now?

Edit: Fixed, thanks. :-)



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07 Apr 2011, 11:31 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
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:lmao: asp-z.


Laughing is far too mainstream, hipsters just say "That's funny" ;)


Hipsters are too mainstream 8)


Now that's a mindf**k 8O


And a very true one I do detest.



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08 Apr 2011, 12:58 am

Hipsters say "that's funny" because hipster humor is the kind you silently appreciate with a chuckle.

I haven't read this whole topic, I've only perused it, but I'd like to say this:
Different genres of music have different purposes. Dance is for dancing, punk is for moshing, experimental is to appreciate as art/get stoned to. Pop music is designed to sing and dance along to and have fun with. It's not supposed to be profound. People don't realize that artists' images are simply marketing schemes, or they do realize it and hate the artist for it. It's probably fun to dress crazy, and there's not much money left in music, so they need to market it any way they can. Why not just accept pop for what it is? I really enjoy the music produced by Dr. Luke. Katy Perry, Ke$ha, and new Britney Spears for example. People say "Ke$ha is a dirty whore with no talent!" Shut up foo! She's just trying to make a living, and if she were partying that hard, you'd hear about it. If you look at interviews and early demos on Youtube, Ke$ha actually has a good singing voice and good taste in music.

She's also the only big female pop star who's built like a tank. :lol:

Lady GaGa's image is designed to sell, and can you blame her? I'd dress up in (more comfortable) costume and do weird stuff for attention if I were a pop star.



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08 Apr 2011, 9:53 am

Zen wrote:
[youtube]http://youtu.be/4wTyMiD3aew[/youtube]

Why is youtube embedding broken now?


It's not, your URL is. You have to put the whole URL in, not the short one.



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08 Apr 2011, 8:44 pm

God this is exactly why I don't listen to the youth all they do is canonize the most bizarre things just because there different. It's pretty obvious that different doesn't mean better. Though if society is shallow enough to believe this I guess I truly am on the wrong planet. :lol:



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08 Apr 2011, 8:51 pm

To be honest this is all subjective no matter how much both aesthetic sides want to wail about there opinion ultimately she will probably wind up like Madonna. Most of her fan base grew up acquired jobs and just see her as a form of nostalgia. GaGa doesn't have to grow up she's affluent emough though she probably won't sell much at age fifty like Madonna.



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08 Apr 2011, 9:39 pm

I'm confused - is she trying to be someone? People keep saying Madonna and personally I have no idea where they're coming from, maybe I'm the only one seeing that she's flexing a different dynamic?

Funny thing is I can't get into her music, can't get into her politics, but I have a hard time not giving her props in other ways.



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09 Apr 2011, 12:00 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Funny thing is I can't get into her music, can't get into her politics, but I have a hard time not giving her props in other ways.


Shes a hypocrite she affiliates herself with the left in almost every area though it eludes her that her career is built on the capitalist system. A multitude of celebrities are a living a lie. How affluent can you get in countries like Russia or China places that left-bent people canonize.



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09 Apr 2011, 12:06 am

JAC92 wrote:
Shes a hypocrite she affiliates herself with the left in almost every area though it eludes her that her career is built on the capitalist system. A multitude of celebrities are a living a lie. How affluent can you get in countries like Russia or China places that left-bent people canonize.

As I said, hate her politics. On the other end Hollywood is loaded with it, the music world is loaded with it, she's not exactly on her own. Sadly it almost goes hand in hand that pop musicians are blazing lefties. I have to wonder though, in the current climate, if there was a musical supergenious who had great things to say about conservatism or about Rand came along - how well they'd fair in publicity.



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10 Apr 2011, 4:56 am

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I love Gaga and her music. Not only is she a truly talented musician, like Descartes mentioned, she continually spreads the much-needed message that we need gay equality in America and that it's okay to be a "freak" or "weird." I've seen her in concert twice, and both times were simply amazing. I love that she's not afraid to dress outlandishly. Yes, part of it is because she loves attention, but the other part of it really is that she doesn't care what people think about her. She just wants to be herself, and she's telling young people to do the same. As someone who was "outcast, bullied, [and] teased" due to "life's disabilities," I think it's a great message.


I actually think that she exploits those people disabilities to get more fame, money and power.