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Do Aspies see how fake Lady Gaga is?

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10 Apr 2011, 5:36 am

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She's interesting. Writes catchy stuff. Has some cool videos.

That's about it.

And, um, AHEM, as someone people would likely call a hipster,
I spit on the idea that somebody a buncha people like is CONTROLLING them somehow.
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WHy do you spit on that idea?



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10 Apr 2011, 5:39 am

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I'm a big Gaga fan - that is a fan of her as an artist and as a brand.

Her music is a good example of pop - she has great musical talent, a lot of her songs are rubbish but there are enough there that are such great examples of pop that they do very well, and they do so because they're good not just because of her die-hard fans. I like her because she is fake, she has used previous artists such as Madonna and Michael Jackson as a template to build herself upon, she's a pop icon and a living breathing statement on celebrity culture, pop culture, music culture and fashion.

She's smart because everything she does is fake so her image isn't her as a person but as a statement - you'll rarely see images or hear stories about her that she doesn't want you to know about, her use of the media is staggering and it does mimic Jacksons micky-take of the media by being purposefully eccentric and outrageous to make her a less-than-real character thus cementing her in the media and in the history books...and it's that character you see, never her...she is no longer a person, which is her art. She went from being a performer in New York, arts school, song writer - which in itself is impressive, but to achieve all she has is amazing.

She blatantly advertises anything and everything, yet still manages to maintain integrity by making this part of her branding and she does this impeccably, most other artists bring out scents or clothing lines, where as Gaga has managed to get herself into everything. She uses her following of little monsters to promote positive messages - for example don't ask don't tell, which I'm guessing is a major thing to go up against in the US, she did so in an annoying way but she still does more with her fame than most, and has a major cultural influence.

Lots of things about her annoy me to no end - she doesn't need to go as far as wearing a meat dress, that was a ridiculous move that she really didn't need to do at the peek of her career, the egg thing to me was like when stars start to wear those massive sunglasses once fame goes to her head...but hell it shows some serious commitment to her art to stay in that thing for so long!

So....I'm the only one who suspects she may be an aspie then?
No, not just for the eccentric behaviour.


No shes defintely not an aspie. She is good at tricking and deceiving people. She is a good robot child and is refined at making other people robots. She uses and exploits certain issues and people so that she can get more fame, power and money and it works, obviously. She isn't going up against anyone. haha. Anyone that truly goes up against the great evil, gets killed, like John Lennon, JFK, Kurt Cobain, 2pac, Micheal Jackson...... You need to dig deeper.



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11 Apr 2011, 4:58 am

Well I like good music like Mozart's Requiem and I also like to study music and write my own so listening to a song like Poker Face which uses brain-meltingly simple notation and the same generic chords as most other terrible pop songs is like reading a Peter and Jane book. As well as this I don't appreciate promiscuousness and aesthetics used not only to sell music which should be appreciated on a non-physical level but actually being more important than the music itself.



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11 Apr 2011, 6:55 am

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Funny thing is I can't get into her music, can't get into her politics, but I have a hard time not giving her props in other ways.


Shes a hypocrite she affiliates herself with the left in almost every area though it eludes her that her career is built on the capitalist system. A multitude of celebrities are a living a lie. How affluent can you get in countries like Russia or China places that left-bent people canonize.


Your entire life is built on a capitalist system.

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Anyone that truly goes up against the great evil, gets killed, like John Lennon, JFK, Kurt Cobain, 2pac, Micheal Jackson...... You need to dig deeper.


Kurt Cobain killed himself. Seriously, is it that hard to believe that a drug addict with bipolar disorder would commit suicide?


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11 Apr 2011, 7:10 am

On the subject of capitalism and exploitation... Capitalism is man exploiting man, communism is the reverse. Human society is based on exploitation no matter what.

SaNcheNuSS, you've been reading too many conspiracy sites.



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11 Apr 2011, 12:17 pm

I just think shes funny, anytime I feel like it I'll just go watch a vid of hers and have a good laugh. So satisfying.



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12 Apr 2011, 4:58 am

Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of capitalism and exploitation... Capitalism is man exploiting man, communism is the reverse. Human society is based on exploitation no matter what.

SaNcheNuSS, you've been reading too many conspiracy sites.


That is what they want you to believe eh? Everything is fine and dandy right? No corruption. Our government loves us. If they could, they would send us lollipops and balloons on our birthdays.

Oh and there is nothing more powerful than the government. The governments are the end all be all to power in this planet. Obama is the leader of the world.



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12 Apr 2011, 5:02 am

Delirium wrote:
JAC92 wrote:
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Funny thing is I can't get into her music, can't get into her politics, but I have a hard time not giving her props in other ways.


Shes a hypocrite she affiliates herself with the left in almost every area though it eludes her that her career is built on the capitalist system. A multitude of celebrities are a living a lie. How affluent can you get in countries like Russia or China places that left-bent people canonize.


Your entire life is built on a capitalist system.

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Anyone that truly goes up against the great evil, gets killed, like John Lennon, JFK, Kurt Cobain, 2pac, Micheal Jackson...... You need to dig deeper.


Kurt Cobain killed himself. Seriously, is it that hard to believe that a drug addict with bipolar disorder would commit suicide?


If you knew the psychology of a person like Kurt Cobain, you would understand that it makes no logical sense why he would kill himself. Kurt Cobain didn't want to die but what do I know?



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12 Apr 2011, 9:58 am

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
On the subject of capitalism and exploitation... Capitalism is man exploiting man, communism is the reverse. Human society is based on exploitation no matter what.

SaNcheNuSS, you've been reading too many conspiracy sites.


That is what they want you to believe eh? Everything is fine and dandy right? No corruption. Our government loves us. If they could, they would send us lollipops and balloons on our birthdays.

Oh and there is nothing more powerful than the government. The governments are the end all be all to power in this planet. Obama is the leader of the world.

Too much Alan Watt fries the brain.



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12 Apr 2011, 10:47 am

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
If you knew the psychology of a person like Kurt Cobain, you would understand that it makes no logical sense why he would kill himself. Kurt Cobain didn't want to die but what do I know?


He had a family history of mental illness and suicide, was addicted to drugs, and had bipolar disorder. Take off the tin foil hat, broski.


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12 Apr 2011, 11:25 pm

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
No shes defintely not an aspie. She is good at tricking and deceiving people. She is a good robot child and is refined at making other people robots. She uses and exploits certain issues and people so that she can get more fame, power and money and it works, obviously. She isn't going up against anyone. haha. Anyone that truly goes up against the great evil, gets killed, like John Lennon, JFK, Kurt Cobain, 2pac, Micheal Jackson...... You need to dig deeper.


you do of course realize that this was a suicide, right


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13 Apr 2011, 11:18 am

okay, it was a suicide, whateverusay. It doesn't matter, if you are fooled into believing it was suicide. What about the other guys who were killed? You are still avoiding them.



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13 Apr 2011, 11:22 am

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
okay, it was a suicide, whateverusay. It doesn't matter, if you are fooled into believing it was suicide. What about the other guys who were killed? You are still avoiding them.


Michael Jackson - overdose
JFK, John Lennon - killed by lone wackadoodles
2pac - I am not familiar with his death, so I can't say for sure.

Not seeing the conspiracy here, old sport.


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13 Apr 2011, 11:26 am

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2pac - I am not familiar with his death, so I can't say for sure.

2pac and Biggy - died from an odd mess of odds and ends. 2pac was at Biggy's place when it got robbed, was shot several times and thought it was Biggy's guys, went off the rail to where likely someone from NYC did kill him (no one knows who for sure) just like Biggy's death was a retaliation to 2pac's murder.



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13 Apr 2011, 1:58 pm

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Her act is nothing more than degenerate trash, playing up to weak minded inviduals with all sorts of perversions and filth, a common way for record producers to sell this degenerate, sexualized 'art' in the new Western World now it seems, talent is no longer important it seems. This 'art' that we are seeing now seems to mirror exactly what filth the Germans had to put up with during the 20's when the Country was falling to pieces with smut peddlers presenting prostitutes having sex with Donkys as 'art'. Then just like the Western World now it needs to be completely rebuilt, as for the Gaga character? She needs a good hosing down.


This is the best reason I've seen for viewing Lady Gaga with enthusiasm. This quote doesn't seem the result of a troll; it is too accurate a depiction of the propaganda the NSDAP used to justify their "reforms" in Germany, combined with a semi-literate use of grammar and syntax. And if Lady Gaga disgusts the sort of person who is even today not ashamed to label themselves "National Socialist", then she's clearly gotten something right.

Seriously, I usually consider myself indifferent to Lady Gaga; I neither enthuse over her, nor regard her as a threat to "the new Western World". But I am happy to leap to the defense of anyone who becomes a lightning rod for attacks of this sort. There is no "filth" so extreme it cannot be outdone by the evils which were perpetrated in the Germany of the 1930s in the name of 'improving society'.


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