Why you can't get a date

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Because you see yourself as this:



And wish you were this?

How's that relevant?

As far as I know Sly doesn't care about being rich, famous or super attractive and susscessful, and he dislikes super attractive successful women.

He just wants to love and be loved.

Very true.

^ This is very very very true. This is a real life example we see everyday, not WP idealist unrealistic talk that isn't in touch with reality, even my parents are like this.

Women never call men to ask if they can buy something.

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I don’t date my landlord. It’s a business transaction. But if you all wan come pay for my house I want go ahead, but don’t expect to live in it after it’s paid off :p you won’t find many men willing t help a lady buy a house he has no right to ownership for, but guess that’s yet another difference beymen and women. I also highly doubt most women will pay half a mans mortgage. They usually just live of said man for free and call themselves house wife’s, my brothers wife family, her dad pays everything her mom works too but she spends all her money info fun stuff just for her.

But that’s what we are discuss The Who’ll a man has t pay half of everything idea. Which means that lady who owns a house expects him to pay half of the mortgages. He said better off renting his own appartment that’ll be in his name and he won’t have to pay for repairs, and it’ll be cheaper. What incentive is there for men to spend all their hard earned mo ey ro pay half of so,e woman’s expensive house and belongings? Freak that

Yet another example of women seeing love and relationships as business transactions. Her bf is just her rentee and she’s the landlord, minuse the actual rental agreements and contracts and landlord responsibilities. Why don’t more landlords just date their tenants, they escape all legal processes

Would either of you pay half my mortgage if I owned a house? Half my $1000 fully loaded cable bill, half my lights on all the time electric bill? Or would you cry no I’m not paying for stuff I don’t need? Cause I bet you wouldn’t , yet you stand here says no guys should. See the difference between this and most couples is most couples rent together, they don’t rent s spot in the others house. If she wants to keep her house then my share will need to be negotiated and it won’t be half. Otherwise we can get s new place together that’s in both our budgets. I’m not asking anymore then I’d do if it was the other way around. I wouldn’t ask rent from s gf, just that she cover her expensive so I don’t have additional costs from her living with me.

As for people who outright own their house, why should their bf pay them rent?
Really sounds like you two want tenants not bfs. That’s not how relationships work, probably why both spouses usually give up bother their places and find s new one together.

Women seem to have issue where they presume all guys are freeloaders but women have mooched off and freeloaded off men for thousands of years and deem it still ok to do so today. Yet if some guy doesn’t pay half he’s a freeloader, but many women in relationships don’t pay a single cent and it’s fine. Some equality

Maybe couples shouldn’t live together and just only meet in public spaces then go home to their separate homes.

That’s a crime if your male. Women are entitled to love. Men just need to man up and kill their emotions until it’s too much and kill themselves and become another statistic of male suicide.

It’s odd we live in a were of 30 genders, and males who feel they are female and thus get treated like one, but gos forbide people have different ways to happiness no heavens no. There is and only can be one way to happiness and anything else is lies and hearsay. All non believers of the one happiness must be converted or killed via shaming.all must follow the one happiness route there is no other path. Oh but that gray couple is ok, they can’t help being gay. It’s jownthey were born, It how I was born and who I am is wrong.
I bet if I was gay it’d be political ilcorrect to say I can’t gain happiness via social interaction and should just be happy being a social outcast hermit, but at last I was born horribly straight and male.

Worse still quite a few of those women are housewife’s spending his money but deny him things he wants.

My family won’t let me spend my money on stuff I want either. Guess I’ll have to be like some men and hide my moment and purchases from a gf if I ever get one. You’d be surprise the trouble men go though to hide purchases from their wife’s. Some have separate bank accounts theirnwife doesn’t know about. They then lie about how much they make and if they make side money from odd jobs.

How's any of what we are saying relevelent? We went from discussing an article about statistics to a discussion about Sly and the single life.

The article is about why men like me and outrider are alone and will be forever in my case. It’s abiut how society and west civ is doomed and dying.

That's ridiculous.

Well, since you asked, the NT women's "excuse" for wanting a bigger place if a guy moves in might be that they need more space for the guy's stuff. I mean if someone moves in, so do the things they own. Of course, if the guy decides to just bring clothes and other little necessary things and sells/gives away all his furniture then it won't take that much space, but if the apartment is really small then even losing that little space might be a problem. That might be the NT women's "excuse."

There's nothing wrong with renting a house (or an apartment) your whole life, but there's also nothing wrong with not wanting to do so (but it's not like you said it was wrong.)

Of course, it might feel wrong to pay for living in a house that is entirely on your partner's name, but what about your partner's feelings? Would it be right that she has to work hard to pay the loan on the house while you get to live in it for free and have more freetime in your hands just because it's not under your name? I'm not saying you would have to pay half of the loan every month/year, but I also think it would be wrong for you to expect to get a roof over your head for free just because of love... now correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the impression that you agree that if you lived in a house owned by your partner then you should pay your share about electricy, water and food, right? Then why is the idea of paying about the roof over your head wrong to you? Because you wouldn't get anything out of it if she left you? If that's the reason then isn't that also a reason for her to ask you to pay for living in her house? Because you know, if you left her she could end up feeling like you only used her to get a free apartment, just like you'd feel that she used you to get a little extra money if she left you.

As for cleaning, it's not that simple. Let's say you cook for your partner. Even if you both wash your own plates, who washes the things used for cooking? You because you cooked? But then she got to eat what you made for free. And what about things like washing the toilet, vacuuming, washing the floors etc. Those aren't "everyone cleans their own mess" type of things; some kind of system needs to be created. And if another person in a couple works full time and brings in much more money than the other, then it sound logical to me that the one who brings less money to the household does more housework.

Oh ok. So when a women lives in a house man owns, it’s freeloading, but when you live in a house a woman owns, you offer love and companionship? Right.

Did you even read my post? Unless you’re married, you generally pay your fair share of rent. Not half a mortgage. Your fair share of rent. If I had a 600 dollar per week mortgage and a partner wanted to live with me, I’d probably ask for $200 per week, as I’m not married and it’s my asset. If I was married, my things are their things so they wouldn’t pay. If they had nothing themselves I would get a prenup to protect my assets if I got divorced, which IS what a lot of men do if their wife has no job or no way of contributing financially to the marriage. You pay what you would pay living elsewhere, doesn’t matter what your gender is. Two people are living under one roof, they both contribute. You’re not joined at the hip. You are two people paying for space.

Houses are expensive. It’s not 1950. Both sides of a couple have to contribute to rent or it’s too expensive.

Also, unless you’re married, people buy their own belongings.

It doesn’t matter who buys them if you’re married, as if you split, you each get half.

People don’t buy cars for people they’re not married to. That’s ridiculous. There is no financial security. If anyone is stupid enough to then they deserve to lose it. It’s completely different to renting living space.

You’re not making any sense. You have some weird ideas about the way the world works. Of corse I pay for lights and internet I don’t use. Because in flats, you share expenses. That’s the way life works when you live with people. If they leave lights on all day for no reason, you ask them if they would mind turning them off please. You don’t have a tantrum and refuse to pay the bill like a baby.

Who owns a house at 30 anyway? How cheap are houses in America? Is it that easy? You need at least $250000 as a deposit here before you can even think about owning one. To have one with no debt you have to be a millionaire.

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It even goes to the simplest things, like grocery and food items.

I see it all the time when I go to the supermarket, if their wives are not with them you often see men on the cellphone asking something like "hunny do I bring this <item>?" ; even for something simple like a new brand of milk or whatever.

I've never came across a woman doing this in the supermarket, BUT I've seen women doing the same when fixing the car, asking their husbands' opinion on what to do, which parts... etc.

I think most men are.....afraid to buy something from the supermarket that may be seen as a waste in the wife's opinion and got her upset.

You've just described exactly what agoraphobia is.

Or it could be that their wife/partner usually handles grocery shopping and other things like that. Then, when for one reason or other their wife/partner can't do it, they aren't sure what to do and ask for advice in order to have it easier.

Of course it is possible that these men have wife/partner that spends money in ways they see fit but throw a tantrum every time the man buys something they don't like. But I belive that this is a minority.

Really?