Is it ever okay to look at a women's breasts?

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Wrong planet. Home of the domesticated mysoginist

I think that if a woman dresses in a low cut top and her cleavage is on show, then there must be a reason for it. I don't understand why a married woman also has to dress sexy - she has a husband and is not looking for anyone, so I guess its all about showing off or an exibition of her behaviour before she took the vows, one which she can't shake off because its burnt into her brain.

because your attitude is shared by men who commit sexual crimes against women.



i don't actually care what you *think* being a woman would be like, because your statements are demonstarting that you lack the ability to empathize emotionally, physically, socially,or mentally with women.



this is assuming that any women would overlook your rampant misogyny to get to your wallet.



what you are actually saying is that even YOU are afraid of other men, which proves our point. the common denominator is that MEN are the most frequent rapists by an astronomical margin. it isn't just gay men who rape other men either - it's also straight men who want to experience the feeling of power. rape is not usually truly a sexual act, but an act of domination.



this point is moot, as women lose the same things in divorce court. in fact, on average, men enjoy a higher standard of living than women after divorce, so your anecdotal sh*t-slinging is highly inaccurate. here is one source of information regarding that, with multiple scholarly studies backing it up:
http://www.aifs.gov.au/institute/pubs/RP23.pdf



suffice it to say that women are more often objectified than men, and it happens on a regular basis. women are also 11 times more likely to be sexually asssaulted than men.



women don't have to be dressed in a sexy manner to be stared at. as well, if it 40'C outside, neither men nor women should be expected to remain completely covered up. your argument seems to imply that if a woman dresses in a sexy manner than she deserves to be objectified. if that is truly what you think, that is a sick point of view.

here are some examples of non-sexual reasons why a woman may wear a revealing top. it's all i can think of off the top of my head, but it's a start:

1. breast size I - a woman with large breasts can find that a shirt with a regular neckline, even a t-shirt, naturally stretches and shows her cleavage. a turtleneck would stretch and appear even more sexy without any intention on her part.
2. breast size II - a woman with small breasts may not fill outa shirt as much and it will gape and sag at the front, resulting in unintentional amounts of flesh showing
3. fashion choice - during the summer, most clothing selections are very low-cut at most popular clothing stores. also, formal dresses are usually lowcut - try to find an elegant evening gown that *doesn't* show cleavage
4. bras - bras naturally elevate the breasts and create cleavage. women who go braless show way less cleavage by default. but then men would stare at the bounciness under the shirt... no way to win here.

in summary, the low cut top may have nothing to do with men at all. some women may want to appear sexy (even just for her husband), but your assumption that women are intentionally wearing clothes to appear sexy may be misguided.

Then she should have changed her clothes when she was no where near her husband. This is one way for a marriage to break up, because a woman sends out flirty signals to other guys.

Yes, I would think so.

some husbands like it when their wives dress sexy when they go out, so this is a moot point. you can't see inside their marriage so you have no place making an assumption about how the husband feels when she dresses like that.

it is also not reasonable to expect a person to have two sets of clothes that they wear each day. i would not expect my husband to wear a suit for me at home, then change into less hot&sexy clothes when he leaves the house, just so that other women would not look at him!

as an aside, is that seriously all you have to say though? i completely addressed your argument in several aspects and you come back with a tiny little detail in it you don't like? it hardly negates the point...

So, can I have a quick look when a married woman is dressed sexily in front of me? Or should I do what I did the last time it happened - show respect for boundaries by darting my eyes around the room?

I agree.

Also why is ALL the responsibility put on women to bend over backwards to avoid being objectified or harassed?

Dudes, it's not that hard. Look for a few seconds if you want to. But do not stare at her breasts instead of her face when you talk, and DO NOT make her feel endangered.

lol woman haters. How on earth do these people expect to get a girlfriend.

I don't hate women, I would love a girlfriend, very much.

Your attitude to women says otherwise. They can sense it and thats why they stay away.

Women like men who love and respect women. Take Hugh Heffner for example, yeah well even before he was rich that guy could get any women he wanted. He loves them and speaks to them with respect, thats why. Have you ever seen the way he talks to them?

Because loving and respecting women can't be faked.

Women stay away because I approach them the wrong way. Thats what happens when someone has never had a girlfriend or been told by anyone the best way to approach them. Its called no experience. You could say that my attitude to women has slightly soured every time I get turned down. No ones at fault, woman can turn me down, and I'm not at fault because I have no idea what I am doing and anyone, Aspie or NT has done nothing to help me, even though I pleaded for help for many years and got nothing.

As for Hugh Hefner, thats a very bad example. He has the money to get women into bed, plus the women will sleep with him just to get their careers moving. Also, Hefners wife and daughter pose nude for Playboy and his wife lets him sleep with the other women.

You're missing the point. Money etc aside, he speaks to women with a great amount of respect. Thats what they like. You can't hate women on here and then go into the real world and pretend to respect them, because you don't.

Hugh isn't an Aspie, he is older and he knows the social and emotional traits of an NT. He's bound to get it right.