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02 Jan 2011, 1:19 pm

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I think you need better pictures - I can see "aspie face" in your expressions. My suggestion, go out with a friend and have him/her snap pictures of you in the moment.

Look at my profile, and I admit I have a little "aspie face" in my bike pic, I had someone take my pics with a Canon EOS DSLR with a "fast" - meaning F2.8 or lower aperture lens, an iPhone 4 and my trusty old Canon PowerShot A610. Bokeh - or a blurred background with an DSLR's more shallow depth of field is sexy.


Just a question, what is the "aspie face" supposed to look like? I had a friend take those pictures of me in the office and I thought they were much better than the original picture I used. At least they had me smiling.

Flat facial expression or the "deer in the headlights" gaze.

And good job!



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02 Jan 2011, 2:45 pm

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WOOT! go Jono!


You'll be glad to know that my second message was successful this this time. She's now asking about me.

SQUEEEEE!! ! that's great. keep us updated.


Will do. I'll see what she says tomorrow.



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02 Jan 2011, 9:03 pm

Get some happy pictures of you in different settings... really try and have good pictures.

Try and describe yourself without getting too into your interests... Talk about the things that you enjoy WHICH you can enjoy with a partner. IE: Walks, cooking, music, travel. Try and be light hearted, women don't like things to be too serious or dry.

You need to make a profile that shows you would be a nice, fun guy that would be easy to get along with for most people... you don't want to sound like a stick in the mud who only cares about science and sci fi.

You want to make a profile that will seem inviting and attractive to as many women as possible, while still being relatively authentic. It is a "numbers game" after all.



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03 Jan 2011, 8:41 am

She's replied again, should I mention my AS?



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03 Jan 2011, 8:55 am

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Get some happy pictures of you in different settings... really try and have good pictures.

Try and describe yourself without getting too into your interests... Talk about the things that you enjoy WHICH you can enjoy with a partner. IE: Walks, cooking, music, travel. Try and be light hearted, women don't like things to be too serious or dry.

You need to make a profile that shows you would be a nice, fun guy that would be easy to get along with for most people... you don't want to sound like a stick in the mud who only cares about science and sci fi.

You want to make a profile that will seem inviting and attractive to as many women as possible, while still being relatively authentic. It is a "numbers game" after all.


Thanks. I was wanting to work out how to improve my profile anyway, but for the time being, I want to see how far I get with the girl I'm currently chatting to.



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03 Jan 2011, 10:01 am

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She's replied again, should I mention my AS?


I honestly wouldn't, not until you meet up at least once or twice. Chances are, if AS is a dealbreaker, you won't get to the first date, and if you do make it to a first date, you'll know after. Not trying to be negative here, just saying it how I see it.

Let her decide if she likes you based on who you are.


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03 Jan 2011, 12:32 pm

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She's replied again, should I mention my AS?


I honestly wouldn't, not until you meet up at least once or twice. Chances are, if AS is a dealbreaker, you won't get to the first date, and if you do make it to a first date, you'll know after. Not trying to be negative here, just saying it how I see it.

Let her decide if she likes you based on who you are.


I agree 100%

Although it should happen eventually if/when things get a bit more serious, I am completely against dropping the "A-bomb" too soon. The average NT doesn't even know what it is anyway.


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03 Jan 2011, 1:16 pm

I concour with the school of thought that involves not mentioning AS.

It's something that should be a secondary characteristic of your identity not your first.

Ignore what i'm doing putting up on your profile. I'm intentionally doing so both A) As a filer and B) With what I do for a living it wouldn't really take long for a person to put 2+2 together. Plus all my work colleagues know I have AS as well.



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03 Jan 2011, 1:22 pm

if i was a man it would be tempting to set up similar profiles on different dating sites, one which mentions AS and one which does not, just to see if there is a difference in how women react. there is a whole lot of speculation about how we think women will react, but none of us has any experiences with women online to support either perspective.



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03 Jan 2011, 1:32 pm

Well If i wasn't being so lazy about messaging people i might find out that bit quicker



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03 Jan 2011, 2:41 pm

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She's replied again, should I mention my AS?


I honestly wouldn't, not until you meet up at least once or twice. Chances are, if AS is a dealbreaker, you won't get to the first date, and if you do make it to a first date, you'll know after. Not trying to be negative here, just saying it how I see it.

Let her decide if she likes you based on who you are.


Well, I haven't yet. In any case she added me to her favorites list, so I decided to return the favor. Oh, and one of the other 3 women I sent a message to on Saturday also just replied to me as well.



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03 Jan 2011, 3:50 pm

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if i was a man it would be tempting to set up similar profiles on different dating sites, one which mentions AS and one which does not, just to see if there is a difference in how women react. there is a whole lot of speculation about how we think women will react, but none of us has any experiences with women online to support either perspective.


I tried that!

I didn't run the experiment for long, but "with AS" I couldn't even get a pre-date (AKA "coffee"), without it I couldn't get a first date (post coffee).

I guess the difference was between telling them and showing them.

My conclusion was that it's better to not disclose, because then you at least get a shot on goal...


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03 Jan 2011, 3:55 pm

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if i was a man it would be tempting to set up similar profiles on different dating sites, one which mentions AS and one which does not, just to see if there is a difference in how women react. there is a whole lot of speculation about how we think women will react, but none of us has any experiences with women online to support either perspective.


I tried that!

I didn't run the experiment for long, but "with AS" I couldn't even get a pre-date (AKA "coffee"), without it I couldn't get a first date (post coffee).

I guess the difference was between telling them and showing them.

My conclusion was that it's better to not disclose, because then you at least get a shot on goal...

yes, but... it didn't work out with the women you had coffee with. so maybe by disclosing you would have been able to filter out many of the women who you would not have been suited to dating anyway. a handful of garnets is nowhere near the worth of a single diamond.

from what people say, it seems like it can take months or in some cases even years to meet someone who is worth dating, so if it starts off slow it isn't a guaranteed failure.



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03 Jan 2011, 4:54 pm

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if i was a man it would be tempting to set up similar profiles on different dating sites, one which mentions AS and one which does not, just to see if there is a difference in how women react. there is a whole lot of speculation about how we think women will react, but none of us has any experiences with women online to support either perspective.


I tried that!

I didn't run the experiment for long, but "with AS" I couldn't even get a pre-date (AKA "coffee"), without it I couldn't get a first date (post coffee).

I guess the difference was between telling them and showing them.

My conclusion was that it's better to not disclose, because then you at least get a shot on goal...

yes, but... it didn't work out with the women you had coffee with. so maybe by disclosing you would have been able to filter out many of the women who you would not have been suited to dating anyway. a handful of garnets is nowhere near the worth of a single diamond.

from what people say, it seems like it can take months or in some cases even years to meet someone who is worth dating, so if it starts off slow it isn't a guaranteed failure.


You are just going to argue this aren't you? Sorry, but I'm not satisfied with the answer that if you don't get a first meeting with them due to you mentioning AS in your profile then they must not be worth dating anyway. If they don't know what AS is and they've only heard things like "AS people lack empathy", do you honestly think they're being shallow if they don't want to date you? If so, would you date someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and would think think was shallow not to date someone because they're a narcissist?

If I had to go by that paradigm, then I may as well give up looking for a relationship altogether because I think it's never going to happen. I'd rather have someone know me by my individual personality first, rather than by the disorder.



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03 Jan 2011, 5:31 pm

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You are just going to argue this aren't you? Sorry, but I'm not satisfied with the answer that if you don't get a first meeting with them due to you mentioning AS in your profile then they must not be worth dating anyway. If they don't know what AS is and they've only heard things like "AS people lack empathy", do you honestly think they're being shallow if they don't want to date you?


Yes Jono, yes they will

And it won't get to the reading into more detail part it will stop when the word "syndrome" appears.

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If so, would you date someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and would think think was shallow not to date someone because they're a narcissist?


Know any NPD's on dating sites? I don't, I doubt their ego would permit them to be on a site where they were not able to dominate it or get whatever kick they were after out of it somehow. It would be amusing to watch though, good idea for a new TV show Narcissitics do online dating.

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If I had to go by that paradigm, then I may as well give up looking for a relationship altogether because I think it's never going to happen. I'd rather have someone know me by my individual personality first, rather than by the disorder


Welcome to the reason why I never bothered with them till now. And even then this okcupid business is more an experiment on my part. The actual thought of meeting someone i've no prior history of knowing is actually quite off putting and not appealing at all to me. But I persist despite my cynical nature.

I'd much rather meet people who I encounter IRL circumstances it feels far more natural to me then an online meat market does to me.