Constant rejection from women is making me suicidal

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10 Oct 2011, 3:57 pm

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Very well said!

*pathetic loser knuckle bump*


Nothin' quite like seeing someone with exactly the same problem as you to put things in perspective, eh? :P

...*pathetic loser knuckle bumps back* XP


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10 Oct 2011, 3:58 pm

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So don't call all women heartless b*****s then.


I said that because there are some who have led me on. And no don't go talking about "her" on WP...I'm referring to other incidents...real-life incidents in particular.

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So you can have my word that I´ll stop arguing with you about this as soon as you drop this issue,until then Im going to keep trying to talk some sense into you(and hopefully at some point you´ll have a breakthrough/give up arguing.)


Why are you so sure you know more than me? You're seven years younger...now I'm not claiming age is the sole determinant of wisdom, but let me ask you this: how do you think you would feel if you were seven years older and had never been in a relationship? Do you really think you would be calmer than me?

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How many women would you estimate have rejected you ?


It depends on what counts as rejection, I guess. Maybe 50 real-life and 100 on-line ones? How many approaches should a guy have to make?

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You don't seem to believe anyone's advice or kind words, so there's nothing anyone can do to help you.


Maybe I'd be receptive if I received advice other than have a positive attitude.



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10 Oct 2011, 4:53 pm

SadAspy wrote:
Why are you so sure you know more than me? You're seven years younger...now I'm not claiming age is the sole determinant of wisdom, but let me ask you this: how do you think you would feel if you were seven years older and had never been in a relationship? Do you really think you would be calmer than me?


Yes. In fact, I'm likely a few years older than you. And I'm far more calmer, far less bitter and angry. It's because I made a decision NOT to be that person, and took steps to change.



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seoulgamer wrote:
You don't seem to believe anyone's advice or kind words, so there's nothing anyone can do to help you.


Maybe I'd be receptive if I received advice other than have a positive attitude.


I've given you advice before. I'll reiterate the most important bit for you...you need to see a therapist. I'm serious. I know you said you tried...but I suspect you hit resistance and sabotaged the help by convincing yourself it wasn't working. That is the trick our mind plays. You need to COMMIT yourself, no matter how difficult it gets, to this help. Your anger issues are deep-seeded, and simple advice from anyone in this forum isn't going to help, I'm afraid.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:23 pm

SadAspy wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
So don't call all women heartless b*****s then.


I said that because there are some who have led me on. And no don't go talking about "her" on WP...I'm referring to other incidents...real-life incidents in particular.

spongy wrote:
So you can have my word that I´ll stop arguing with you about this as soon as you drop this issue,until then Im going to keep trying to talk some sense into you(and hopefully at some point you´ll have a breakthrough/give up arguing.)


Why are you so sure you know more than me? You're seven years younger...now I'm not claiming age is the sole determinant of wisdom, but let me ask you this: how do you think you would feel if you were seven years older and had never been in a relationship? Do you really think you would be calmer than me?

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How many women would you estimate have rejected you ?


It depends on what counts as rejection, I guess. Maybe 50 real-life and 100 on-line ones? How many approaches should a guy have to make?

seoulgamer wrote:
You don't seem to believe anyone's advice or kind words, so there's nothing anyone can do to help you.


Maybe I'd be receptive if I received advice other than have a positive attitude.
If you keep going after the same kind of women or keep trying an approach that isn't working or continue to ignore signs that she isn't interested then the number of approaches will be endless.You should be able to make better ,more intelligent choices with every approach that doesn't work if you look at the situation objectively.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:26 pm

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


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10 Oct 2011, 5:46 pm

I'm going to revise my advice a bit from immediate therapy to this: Travel abroad. SadAspy, you said that you might be interested in meeting women from other countries. While I think therapy will be helpful in the long run, what you might try right now is taking some time abroad.

But you'll want to be able to do this for an extended period...several months. To do this, you should look into any number of volunteer organizations like the Peace Corp or some sort of teaching English as a second language program. This will allow you to live in the culture for an extended period of time. These programs exist for many parts of the world.

Or, if you have the skills, you could get a temporary work visa in another country.

Just a thought.



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11 Oct 2011, 2:50 am

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I've given you advice before. I'll reiterate the most important bit for you...you need to see a therapist. I'm serious. I know you said you tried...but I suspect you hit resistance and sabotaged the help by convincing yourself it wasn't working. That is the trick our mind plays. You need to COMMIT yourself, no matter how difficult it gets, to this help. Your anger issues are deep-seeded, and simple advice from anyone in this forum isn't going to help, I'm afraid.


You are not the only one that thinks that way and this has been suggested by a member that interacted with him quite closely for a while and is perhaps the person that knows him best around here.


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11 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

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AsteroidNap wrote:
I've given you advice before. I'll reiterate the most important bit for you...you need to see a therapist. I'm serious. I know you said you tried...but I suspect you hit resistance and sabotaged the help by convincing yourself it wasn't working. That is the trick our mind plays. You need to COMMIT yourself, no matter how difficult it gets, to this help. Your anger issues are deep-seeded, and simple advice from anyone in this forum isn't going to help, I'm afraid.


You are not the only one that thinks that way and this has been suggested by a member that interacted with him quite closely for a while and is perhaps the person that knows him best around here.


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11 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

SadAspy wrote:
spongy wrote:
AsteroidNap wrote:
I've given you advice before. I'll reiterate the most important bit for you...you need to see a therapist. I'm serious. I know you said you tried...but I suspect you hit resistance and sabotaged the help by convincing yourself it wasn't working. That is the trick our mind plays. You need to COMMIT yourself, no matter how difficult it gets, to this help. Your anger issues are deep-seeded, and simple advice from anyone in this forum isn't going to help, I'm afraid.


You are not the only one that thinks that way and this has been suggested by a member that interacted with him quite closely for a while and is perhaps the person that knows him best around here.


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11 Oct 2011, 8:48 pm

Hmmmmm......

SadAspy, do you have any form of IM or anything I could reach you at? I'd like to see if maybe we can talk about things and exchange experiences and see if that might help you feel better (believe me, I'm in the same boat as you, almost, so it's not like you'll be talking to someone who doesn't understand).


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11 Oct 2011, 9:13 pm

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Hmmmmm......

SadAspy, do you have any form of IM or anything I could reach you at? I'd like to see if maybe we can talk about things and exchange experiences and see if that might help you feel better (believe me, I'm in the same boat as you, almost, so it's not like you'll be talking to someone who doesn't understand).


You can PM me here...I'd be happy to talk to you since you are not a female.



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11 Oct 2011, 9:31 pm

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not a Jew."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not black."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not gay."

I can't imagine that any of those statements would be tolerated.



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11 Oct 2011, 9:44 pm

SadAspy wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Hmmmmm......

SadAspy, do you have any form of IM or anything I could reach you at? I'd like to see if maybe we can talk about things and exchange experiences and see if that might help you feel better (believe me, I'm in the same boat as you, almost, so it's not like you'll be talking to someone who doesn't understand).


You can PM me here...I'd be happy to talk to you since you are not a female.


I just sent you a PM.

Let's just say that I'm not popular with the ladies either. :wink: I've learned to accept it for the most part, which is why I'd like to try to help others who are in the same boat. Do I believe that some women can be mean? Yeah, but I also think the same of some men. Face it, certain people are just jerks.

I don't think being unpopular with the opposite sex should be grounds for wanting to kill yourself (then again, it's your life, although I don't like when people die before their time, or at all, really) but I can understand the frustration. I've been down that road, busted a tire, replaced the tire, drove to Dave & Buster's, bought the T-shirt, crashed the car, hitchhiked back.....you get the picture.


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11 Oct 2011, 9:51 pm

Fullofstars wrote:
"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not a Jew."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not black."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not gay."

I can't imagine that any of those statements would be tolerated.

i agree. SadAspy, i'd like you to understand that it is actually quite hurtful to make statements like that. women are human beings that do not deserve those words. you are targeting an entire gender with your anger and bitterness, but we are not responsible for it. you really need to stop this.


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11 Oct 2011, 9:59 pm

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Fullofstars wrote:
"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not a Jew."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not black."

"I'd be happy to talk to you because you're not gay."

I can't imagine that any of those statements would be tolerated.

i agree. SadAspy, i'd like you to understand that it is actually quite hurtful to make statements like that. women are human beings that do not deserve those words. you are targeting an entire gender with your anger and bitterness, but we are not responsible for it. you really need to stop this.


I think the misogynist thing may just be a phase he is going through. I....haven't seen all his posts, but I will be honest and say that when I was younger I went through the same thing. It took me a while but I got over it and realized that while there are jerks out there, there are also good people too. It's just kinda hard to find said good people, and I think that is where the frustration comes in.


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