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MightyMorphin
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26 Jun 2012, 7:58 pm

OK, that MR20 guy whatever your name is, just because you give up on life, doesn't mean people want to smell that you've given up.

It is not fair for others to be burdened with your stench.

I have a very serious mental illness that disables me, I'm on the schizophrenic spectrum, I can't currently work, I also have slurred speech and socially awkward and all the rest, because my disorder shares a lot of traits with aspergers/autism.
I am depressed more or less all the time, but just because my life sucks, doesn't mean I shouldn't have a freakin' bath or shower!

I am on disability benefits, as entitled, and if you're finding it so disabling, then so should you. You can get carers to come in and make sure you're eating a good diet, make sure you're having your showers etc, and any medication and the sorts, and you can also GET HELP!

Aspergers/autism doesn't have to be a life sentence if you want to do something about it.

Have a bath, clean yourself up, buy some new clothes, and go to a support group or see a therapist or something that can help you become more confident.

Yeah I'm also ugly and mentally screwed, and hell I'm damn lonely, but I am DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I'm in therapy, and I'm starting group therapy next week for the other half of it.
It's a year long course, but if I want to have a life worth living, and I want to be able to socialise normally, then I, ME, MYSELF, have to do that for myself.
No-one else can do that.

I do not feel sorry for you that you have a mental problem or whatever, because you refuse to even do anything about it and just sit around and moan that your life sucks and girls won't talk to you.
A BATH WOULD HELP!
The people I feel sorry for are people who are getting help, and finding it difficult, because at least they're trying!



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26 Jun 2012, 8:06 pm

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f**k this sh**. I don't need to be more assertive, I don't need to take baths, I don't "need to get out of my comfort and socialize".

I don't need to buy high priced clothes, cologne, etc, just to impress f***ing people that never wanted anything to do with me in the first place. My money is better spent on things I enjoy.

I'm tired of the BS advice that people (male and female) give out here day in and day out. "Be confident and assertive" "Don't be bitter" "Stop being such a pessimist" "work on your social skills", as if everyone on the spectrum is capable of it.

I hate clubs and bars, I don't don't know of any anime/video game clubs in my area. Even if there were any, do any of you really think the people in there will accept a stinky, stupid, slow, and special ed person such as myself? How many of them would take out the time to actually talk and socialize with me, hell would they even invite me in?

I'm also tired of people saying that it's my fault that I'm alone, like I'm somewhat responsible for not having any friends and never dated.

Tell me, what attractive woman would go out with someone who is: ugly, has mild mental problems, slow, talks with a somewhat mild slur, (you people talk making good first impression, how is that possible for me when as soon as I open my mouth, people already think I'm not all there) poor, and a special ed kid that never made it pass 9th grade.

What group of men would want someone like me hanging around them when they're trying to talk to/pick up women.

I'm almost 26 and I can barely take care of myself. I am a bum and a pathetic loser. I'm not making excuses, these are irrefutable facts, and it's very frustrating when the people here (who actually think they know me better than myself) state otherwise.

I was born without a chance, it's unfair but it's true. I'm going to be a along forever, and there's nothing I can do (short of a miracle) to change that.


Not to be a dick or anything, but you shouldn't blame anyone but yourself for your problems.

If you were to meet a girl with similar drawbacks, would you date her? You still have the oportunity to get at high school equivalency certificate at your age and showers don't have to take more than three minutes a day. If it's any consolation, there are even people with Down's or fragile X who manage to get a G.E.D.

If you're an American, you're born with plenty of chances; in fact, the only ones on the western hemisphere with more oportunities are the Canadians.


It's not my fault that I'm ugly, slow, and half-mentally retarded. I'm not to blame for the way I was born.


It's your fault if you do nothing to correct it. Furthermore, if you want give a girl with similar drawbacks at least a chance then you've only got yourself to blame.


It's not my fault! I can help being all those things I mentioned. I'm sick of people like you, just ignoring how I describe myself and saying to "get over it"

How the hell am supposed to make a good first impression when every time I open my mouth and people here me speak, they automatically think something is wrong with me. It isn't fair. I can't control what people think about me. I am what I am.


I just get frustrated with the advice people here give me. IE being more assertive, having confidence, socializing more and talking to people, forcing yourself to go out to populated places to talk to different people, learning body language, etc.

Like I'm capable of this stuff, when I can barely bathe and take care of myself at the age I'm at.

Then when I state my problems you say "get over it" and "you're just not working hard enough, I have no sympathy for you". It's such BS

It infuriates me and makes me bitter to no end.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:10 pm

ALL WE ARE SAYING IS TAKE A BATH AND PEOPLE MIGHT BE MORE UNDERSTANDING BUT YOU ARE JUST WALLOWING IN SELFPITY AND THAT ISN'T GONNA GO DOWN WITH US!

You're on a board with other people with Aspergers/Autism. You should know all about the empathy thing.

Would you even THINK about talking to a girl again after she was absolutely stinky, the smell made you sick, and she looked hugely unappealing because she's got grease literally dripping from her hair? No, I very much doubt you would. You'd think the same about her, the same way we think about you.

Everyone, I wouldn't bother this guy anymore. Clearly he's never gonna help himself and was just looking for someone to feel sorry for him. Wrong boards, try Psychforums.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:14 pm

MR20, how about you stop worrying about that first impression and instead worry about being as impressionable a person as you can be.
That way you can say if people don't like it, they can go do one. When you make zero effort on the other hand, you're only giving them ammunition. I'm not condoning bullying or insults of any kind, but negativity breeds negativity.

You shouldn't ask why certain people wouldn't hang with you. Instead ask why ANY person wouldn't hang with you. There are countless people you would get on well with in the world, if all you did was try, or get someone to assist you. Please don't come here for attention and to vent. The readers aren't asking you to "get over it / deal with it" but they are asking you to "get over yourself".



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26 Jun 2012, 8:17 pm

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It's not my fault! I can help being all those things I mentioned. I'm sick of people like you, just ignoring how I describe myself and saying to "get over it"

How the hell am supposed to make a good first impression when every time I open my mouth and people here me speak, they automatically think something is wrong with me. It isn't fair. I can't control what people think about me. I am what I am.

I just get frustrated with the advice people here give me. IE being more assertive, having confidence, socializing more and talking to people, forcing yourself to go out to populated places to talk to different people, learning body language, etc.

Like I'm capable of this stuff, when I can barely bathe and take care of myself at the age I'm at.

Then when I state my problems you say "get over it" and "you're just not working hard enough, I have no sympathy for you". It's such BS

It infuriates me and makes me bitter to no end.


The bitterness is plainly obvious, but it really is up to you to make the most of the crappy hand we've ALL been dealt here! You can keep yourself clean and stink-free, learn to smile to people and at least have "normal" working relationships or even friends - maybe even the long-shot of finding a woman willing to be with you (no, she won't be a supermodel.)

OR you can give up and have no hope of anything. No human interaction at all, because no one can stand to be anywhere near you.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:23 pm

MR20 wrote:
I just get frustrated with the advice people here give me. IE being more assertive, having confidence, socializing more and talking to people, forcing yourself to go out to populated places to talk to different people, learning body language, etc.

Like I'm capable of this stuff, when I can barely bathe and take care of myself at the age I'm at.

Then when I state my problems you say "get over it" and "you're just not working hard enough, I have no sympathy for you". It's such BS

It infuriates me and makes me bitter to no end.


Look it might not be your fault, but it's nobody else's fault either. Stop trying to blame everyone for your problems. Take responsibility for them. I'm not saying solve them necessarily - but own them. They're your problems. There's nobody out there who is responsible for you. Maybe I should blame you for my problems, would that make sense?

You don't want people to give you guidance? What do you want then? You want us to tell you it's ok to quit? NO. I refuse.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:59 pm

In some ways, you're lucky you have Aspergers, you're black. With Aspergers, you don't fit into the "hood" culture, thus you might actually be able to do something useful with your life, moreso than your NT "hood" cultured peers.



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26 Jun 2012, 9:17 pm

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In some ways, you're lucky you have Aspergers, you're black. With Aspergers, you don't fit into the "hood" culture, thus you might actually be able to do something useful with your life, moreso than your NT "hood" cultured peers.


Racist. Sorry - just needed to take that opportunity to point out how cultural criticism can have someone perceived as a racist if the culture they're criticizing isn't American or European culture. Absurd, really.



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26 Jun 2012, 9:30 pm

MR20, it sounds like you were told at an early age that you have Asperger's (or some mental disability) and that's unfortunate because you seem to have exaggerated your condition into a self fulfilling prophecy. I wonder what would have happened if you had grown up like me, poor with neglectful parents who didn't want to bother with finding out why I was so weird. Since I never knew I has Asperger's I kept trying to fit in, and in doing so kinda became almost normal. Thank you parents! I have a job, I shower regularly, I don't have any close friends, my coworkers think I'm odd, I slur my speech, but I'm able to function in society. Don't you want fulfillment in your life? Stop coddling your Asperger's!

I hate that you think you're ugly, because you can do something about that. A healthy and clean person is never ugly. Exercise, eat right, shower. When you're presentable come join the human race.


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26 Jun 2012, 11:01 pm

MR20, Misery loves company and if you're complaining without making an effort to change your situation, people are going to have every right to complain or walk away themselves, I don't know why you are surprised at that response.

The world isn't fair, the world isn't going to give you everything on a silver platter and you have been given pages and pages of advice.



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27 Jun 2012, 6:09 am

1000Knives wrote:
In some ways, you're lucky you have Aspergers, you're black. With Aspergers, you don't fit into the "hood" culture, thus you might actually be able to do something useful with your life, moreso than your NT "hood" cultured peers.


Not every black male lives in a ghetto or comes from a poor background. Not everybody that lives in a hood or ghetto is a lowlife. Not everybody that lives in the ghetto hangs out with lowlifes. I could go on but I think you get the point.



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27 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

JanuaryMan wrote:
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In some ways, you're lucky you have Aspergers, you're black. With Aspergers, you don't fit into the "hood" culture, thus you might actually be able to do something useful with your life, moreso than your NT "hood" cultured peers.


Not every black male lives in a ghetto or comes from a poor background. Not everybody that lives in a hood or ghetto is a lowlife. Not everybody that lives in the ghetto hangs out with lowlifes. I could go on but I think you get the point.


Right, not every black male lives in the ghetto or comes from a poor background, but he does. Not everyone that lives in the ghetto or hood is a lowlife, fine, but the crime rates there are much higher than in the suburbs or rural areas. For hanging out while living in the ghetto, again, see crime rates. It's nothing against black people, it's just factually their culture is not doing well due to a variety of factors, some outside of their control (like LBJ's "Great Society" that helped to get fathers out of homes) some in their control. But, to say the culture itself is not a destructive culture is blindness.

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Just look at the music, is that progress as a society? No, it's regression. Again, I'm not saying it's black people's fault or whatever, as far as who's to "blame" that's not what I'm trying to argue one way or the other, but what I'm saying is, as a culture, bad. You wouldn't argue "Well not everyone who lives in trailer parks..." No.



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27 Jun 2012, 11:23 am

Sorry, but there are other ghettos in the world besides in countries where blacks populate them. Go to Central and South America, parts of Eastern Europe and pockets of Asia. And it's not just rap music and afro-rooted music that has degenerated in 20-40 years. Just switch over to any music station with chart music and it's almost all trashy and expendable (if entertaining).



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27 Jun 2012, 2:51 pm

holy racism batman
and aside from music snobbery being just plain old stupid (oh you like these sounds in your ears? that's wrong you should like these sounds instead) the it's all gone downhill thing is pure "get off my lawn"


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27 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
holy racism batman
and aside from music snobbery being just plain old stupid (oh you like these sounds in your ears? that's wrong you should like these sounds instead) the it's all gone downhill thing is pure "get off my lawn"


Go to "the hood" and see how much you like it. For real fun, try seeing how much you like it by actually living in said neighborhoods.