Women who throw themselves at men on dating sites
EDIT: his list should be like this:
1. "attractive" women
2. everyone else
48 compared to 1 or 2 messages isn't equal, is online dating about presentation? Yes, it is to an extent. It is only natural as women are more reserved and don't send out as many unsolicited messages as men do, however there are women that are forward.
one of the women got 11 messages, which is very few compared to the number the top female got. also compared to the 38 messages one male got, i'd say she was much worse off than him. so the silly list that put women above men in online dating doesn't work. some women get fewer messages than men, even though the onus is generally upon men to send the messages.
considering that women are mocked and derided for sending messages at all (hence the point of this thread), i'd say that isn't going to change anytime soon.
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Or just move to a place not America where the food supply isn't f****d up and there's not high fructose corn syrup in everything, and then you'll have your fair pick of girls that aren't fat. In places not America/West, girls generally aren't fat, so therefore even an "ugly" girl is hot by American standards. American standards have dropped to "You're not fat, why, you're gorgeous!" But males, if you yourselves are fat, then you will get a fat girl. It's that simple.
Also, having Aspergers unfortunately means you yourself have "baggage" and you yourself are considered "crazy." So you will get a girl with "baggage" too. That is reality.
So if you want a hot girl, look like Dimitri Klokov and there you go. And for all the "girls care more about feelings and intellect" no. Girls are way nicer to me now that I've lost weight and started lifting. The "...." look girls used to give me now is a smile. So based on personal experience, if you're an ugly guy, less women will like you. I guess by some percentage, girls care less about looks than guys, I'll grant that, but I don't think the percentage is as high as it's made out to be. And because of the "baggage" of Aspergers, you will either get a girl with baggage of some sort, or she'll be ugly.
So I figure the best time for me to date would be when I look like Dimitri Klokov and make lots of money.
"The ugliest man got nothing after four months of desperation. The three men with looks ranging from ugly to above-average received a grand total of three messages over four months. If you are the average man, don’t plan on letting your generic beta profile and photo do your work for you. Hell, even if you are a good-looking man, you won’t have many messages to work with after four months. Conclusion: Men, you NEED game in order to excel in the thunderbone that is online dating. Otherwise, you’ll have better odds picking up women just talking to any of them that you meet walking down the street.
Worse, the ugliest woman got nearly as many messages as the best-looking man! (Or second-best-looking man, depending on your judgment of the rank order of male photos.) The second-ugliest woman — a piddling 3 or 4 by most men’s standards — received as many messages as the two hottest men received."
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... xperiment/
Also, having Aspergers unfortunately means you yourself have "baggage" and you yourself are considered "crazy." So you will get a girl with "baggage" too. That is reality.
So if you want a hot girl, look like Dimitri Klokov and there you go. And for all the "girls care more about feelings and intellect" no. Girls are way nicer to me now that I've lost weight and started lifting. The "...." look girls used to give me now is a smile. So based on personal experience, if you're an ugly guy, less women will like you. I guess by some percentage, girls care less about looks than guys, I'll grant that, but I don't think the percentage is as high as it's made out to be. And because of the "baggage" of Aspergers, you will either get a girl with baggage of some sort, or she'll be ugly.
So I figure the best time for me to date would be when I look like Dimitri Klokov and make lots of money.
A location change would be in order for me anyway to find a woman-- damn near every woman I've talked to from some part of Europe (which I will admit has only been about 3 or 4 of them) have found me handsome for some reason (maybe because I look "exotic" to them or something?) while here I'm just thought of as either below average or the "U" word.
Too bad I will never have the money to leave this country. :/
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just because the man didn't get any initial messages didn't mean he wouldn't get any replies to the messages he sent. you are conveniently disregarding the fact that men send the majority of initial messages on dating sites, so of course women will end up getting more messages overall.
and your list still didn't work because some of the men got more messages than some of the women - even though the onus is on the men to send initial messages. so some of the men would have had not only initial messages from women but also replies from women. the study didn't show that.
your basic premise is flawed. if it corrected for the proportion of initial messages sent by men (5 to 1? 10 to 1?) then we might have data that could be compared across genders.
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So I figure the best time for me to date would be when I look like Dimitri Klokov and make lots of money.
Firstly I don't see every woman walking around with a guy that looks like Jay Cutler or even Van Damme.
Those who share an afflication or conviction are likely to have a greater mutual understanding and diverse attitude. People who are afraid of diversity shouldn't matter if acceptance is what truly matters. Pain and struggle doesn't define us, how we respond to the pain is what defines us. You defined yourself by making a healthy lifestyle choice and now that is more apparent, you will receive more positive initial attention but it won't instantly make you God's gift to women.
In any case, finding women that have an appreciation and admiration for the sport is likely to a better bet. Just like a classic car is more likely to be appreciated at a classic car show.
So I figure the best time for me to date would be when I look like Dimitri Klokov and make lots of money.
Firstly I don't see every woman walking around with a guy that looks like Jay Cutler or even Van Damme.
Those who share an afflication or conviction are likely to have a greater mutual understanding and diverse attitude. People who are afraid of diversity shouldn't matter if acceptance is what truly matters. Pain and struggle doesn't define us, how we respond to the pain is what defines us. You defined yourself by making a healthy lifestyle choice and now that is more apparent, you will receive more positive initial attention but it won't instantly make you God's gift to women.
In any case, finding women that have an appreciation and admiration for the sport is likely to a better bet. Just like a classic car is more likely to be appreciated at a classic car show.
Doesn't guarantee a successful relationship, granted, but it guarantees more interest in you regardless, as the OKC study showed (both for men and women.) My problems aren't really shyness or introversion per se, it's more just social awkwardness. From what people tell me, I have like barely better than Chris-chan level social skills. So I figure in my case, social skills and my like, state of existence with NVLD/AS is much harder to manipulate than my looks, which are relatively easy to manipulate by comparison. Of course, I still doubt any woman longterm would put up with my eccentricness. However, if you want one night stands (my religious beliefs sort of don't allow that) I'd say it'd definitely help that.
It seems unless you have a LOT to bring to the table, you're pretty much screwed as far as dating goes with AS. I know a guy who likely has AS at my church. He's got a 170 IQ supposedly, and has a photographic memory. So much so on elementary school tests he'd like, put the exact page number of where the answer was found in the textbook on the tests. He also was a nationally ranked powerlifter (6'0 at 240lbs with 6% bodyfat, with a 500 bench) and played college football and has had relative success career-wise. He's about as awkward as me, but much more...useful. He's married, and married at a fairly normal time (his 20s, iirc.)
I don't think women date AS men because they make them "feel" good. I think they only date AS men because they're useful to them in some way, or will be a good provider or protector of them. Not because we can emotionally make them feel better than other men can. I believe that ship has sailed for us (well maybe I should just speak for myself here) and that's the only angle that can be worked with. If you're not "useful" then you're not going anywhere with AS.
Is it just me or do other guys get turned off when a women practically throws herself at you?
I know that seems counter-intuitive since most of us on here are pretty desperate ourselves, but hear me out on this.
This has happened to me several times already and it usually goes something like this...
1. I get an email that just says "Hi".
2. I think "ok cool... some chick has looked at my profile and is interested"
3. I look at her profile and even though I am not all that interested I decide to go ahead and give it a chance because we do have a couple of things in common and I think it would be kinda rude not to reply to her.
4. I send her an email and ask her a question related to something in her profile (just to get the conversation started)
5. She answers back and the next thing I know she is sending me her email, cell #, facebook, and twitter and we haven't even gotten past "what kind of movies do you like?"
I don't know... maybe I am just being too uptight, but it makes me feel suffocated.
Also as a guy I want to do at least some of the pursuing. Am I just being crazy?
No, you are NOT being too uptight. Did you call her cell#? If you did is it who she said she is?
When a woman does this, this is a RED FLAG
You should stop assuming.
Well to me, a person who can be so judgemental of others must be pretty hot stuff themself
and if they are presumably they would have women throwing themself at them
The phrase 'people in glass houses' comes to mind
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You should stop assuming.
Well to me, a person who can be so judgemental of others must be pretty hot stuff themself
and if they are presumably they would have women throwing themself at them
The phrase 'people in glass houses' comes to mind
Welllllll, technically it *does* make him judgemental.......But since when is being judgemental a bad thing? Women are judgemental and men are too. I know plenty of fat chicks who are quite picky even though everyone around them says that they don't have a right to be.
LOL@The Face of Boo thinking he can tell other people how picky they should or shouldn't be!
you didn't cite any sources for your information. surely if you can provide a detailed list of how things work on dating sites and the proportion of men vs women, you'd have some sort of statistics to back you up.
Try this.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/te ... trial/1405

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^^^shhhhhh don't expect sciencey science from a PUA
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yeah... see I would have gone for the girl with only 48... I find her more attractive than the others.
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EDIT: his list should be like this:
1. "attractive" women
2. everyone else
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