Women who throw themselves at men on dating sites

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27 Nov 2012, 8:54 am

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Overweight and less attractive people are generally seen as lacking worth by society in general. An overweight girl who worked in the same office as an ex work colleague of mine committed suicide and even though I never met this woman it sticks in my mind. Perhaps a lifetime of being seen a 'the dregs' eventually tipped her over the edge? It just makes me very sad that people have to be constantly devaluing each other in an effort to make themselves look better by comparison. It has the opposite effect though. If you degrade another person you degrade yourself as well.


I was the first one to use the term, and didn't mean it looks-wise at all. If I HAD then I would have mentioned that because I have the stupid tendency to be too honest about that sort of thing, mostly online. :P I'm not handsome myself, and have been called ugly a million and one times, so I never use that word to refer to anyone if I can help it. It's an awful word. I'd rather think of a girl that doesn't appeal to me physically as just not being my type, rather than not being beautiful.


It's better not to be handsome or beautiful in my opinion as then you know exactly where you stand with a person. The overly attractive learn a very hard lesson as to exactly where their appeal is coming from when they get older and their partner trades them in for a younger model.



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27 Nov 2012, 9:19 am

Wow... this thread has gotten WAY off topic.
I think we can all agree that calling someone ugly is not only mean, but is also inaccurate
I tried, but I can't think of one example of a person who is beyond a doubt ugly to everyone.
Even someone who is badly scarred... some people are into that kind of thing (or so I'm told)
But this wasn't even what my OP was about.
The more that I think about it, the more I think the problem is with me and not with the "desperate women"
I think when things move too quickly I kind of freak out.
I have never been in a relationship so I need things to move slowly or I get overly anxious.
As far as attraction goes, I think I was just trying to give them a chance even though I didn't feel attracted to them, but maybe that's not the best approach for online dating. :?


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27 Nov 2012, 9:20 am

the way these sites generally work is if the two people do not meet within a week of first chat they probably will never meet up? average or unattractive guys stand less chance of success than both average and unattractive females on dating sites.

on dating sites females have the right to choose because they get lots of messages but the males are usually not in a position to choose because they get limited responses and they must send out lots of messages. usually 3 times as many males as females on dating sites. dating sites that have a fairer/equal gender balance are either dead or full of fake scam accounts.



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27 Nov 2012, 9:22 am

^^^sources?


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27 Nov 2012, 9:30 am

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the way these sites generally work is if the two people do not meet within a week of first chat they probably will never meet up? average or unattractive guys stand less chance of success than both average and unattractive females on dating sites.

on dating sites females have the right to choose because they get lots of messages but the males are usually not in a position to choose because they get limited responses and they must send out lots of messages. usually 3 times as many males as females on dating sites. dating sites that have a fairer/equal gender balance are either dead or full of fake scam accounts.

the order in regards to more attention and most responses on dating sites and real life are:
1. attractive females
2. average females
3. attractive males
4. unattractive females
5. average males
6. unattractive males.

if you are a male in categories 5 or 6 you must be very patient or you are better off not even bothering wasting your time.


Using this system of analysis though you are 'hoist by your own petard' as if you are going to put women in a hierarchy of attractiveness don't moan when women do the same back to you!

This isn't rocket science is it?? (is it? :roll: )

Or in other words, why do average to unattractive-looking men not want to be with their equal in looks but somehow think they have a God-given right to be with Miss Supermodel Princess?!? Lol

I'm quite happy with a chubby, slightly geeky looking man who can make me laugh and is good in bed - good luck to all you suckers who think you deserve the supermodel option!



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27 Nov 2012, 9:36 am

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Wow... this thread has gotten WAY off topic.
I think we can all agree that calling someone ugly is not only mean, but is also inaccurate
I tried, but I can't think of one example of a person who is beyond a doubt ugly to everyone.
Even someone who is badly scarred... some people are into that kind of thing (or so I'm told)
But this wasn't even what my OP was about.
The more that I think about it, the more I think the problem is with me and not with the "desperate women"
I think when things move too quickly I kind of freak out.
I have never been in a relationship so I need things to move slowly or I get overly anxious.
As far as attraction goes, I think I was just trying to give them a chance even though I didn't feel attracted to them, but maybe that's not the best approach for online dating. :?

I see my post had a profound effect on this thread (sarcasm)


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27 Nov 2012, 9:40 am

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Wow... this thread has gotten WAY off topic.
I think we can all agree that calling someone ugly is not only mean, but is also inaccurate
I tried, but I can't think of one example of a person who is beyond a doubt ugly to everyone.
Even someone who is badly scarred... some people are into that kind of thing (or so I'm told)
But this wasn't even what my OP was about.
The more that I think about it, the more I think the problem is with me and not with the "desperate women"
I think when things move too quickly I kind of freak out.
I have never been in a relationship so I need things to move slowly or I get overly anxious.
As far as attraction goes, I think I was just trying to give them a chance even though I didn't feel attracted to them, but maybe that's not the best approach for online dating. :?

I see my post had a profound effect on this thread (sarcasm)


I don't see that it has gone off topic tbh

You wanted to know what to do about 'desperate' women you don't find attractive

We told you and now we're talking around the general topic which for some reason seems to be making you uneasy



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27 Nov 2012, 9:52 am

Online dating success all boils down to luck if you are male and you are average or below average looking. You must have lots of patience and send out a lot of messages.



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27 Nov 2012, 9:54 am

Nessa does have a good point, you are placing unfair standards and expectations on your partner if you expect them to fit a type of standard, you are placing unfair expectations if you expect something that wasn't apparent to begin with.



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27 Nov 2012, 9:55 am

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more generalisations

you didn't cite any sources for your information. surely if you can provide a detailed list of how things work on dating sites and the proportion of men vs women, you'd have some sort of statistics to back you up.


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27 Nov 2012, 9:57 am

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Online dating success all boils down to luck if you are male and you are average or below average looking. You must have lots of patience and send out a lot of messages.

you didn't cite any sources for your information. surely if you can provide a detailed list of how things work on dating sites and the proportion of men vs women, you'd have some sort of statistics to back you up.


Try this.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/te ... trial/1405

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27 Nov 2012, 10:00 am

so, the "unattractive" women got about the same number of messages as the "unattractive" men, rendering his list useless. the only people who got a lot of messages were the supposedly super-attractive women. also, dating sites have about equal numbers of men and women on them.

EDIT: his list should be like this:

1. "attractive" women
2. everyone else


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27 Nov 2012, 10:12 am

What people are failing to take into account here is the fact that very attractive women are invariably 'high maintenance' so even if one of these women did fancy you, are you going to have the money or the energy to take her every where she wants to go, buy all those presents she's obviously going to want and party with her millions of friends as of course, if she's stunningly attractive, she's going to be exceedingly popular too!

Which leads to...all the other men you'll continually be having to fight off the moment you let her out of your sight!

But of course, having a stunning girlfriend is what it's all about...so good luck with that!



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27 Nov 2012, 10:17 am

hyperlexian wrote:
so, the "unattractive" women got about the same number of messages as the "unattractive" men, rendering his list useless. the only people who got a lot of messages were the supposedly super-attractive women. also, dating sites have about equal numbers of men and women on them.

EDIT: his list should be like this:

1. "attractive" women
2. everyone else


48 compared to 1 or 2 messages isn't equal, is online dating about presentation? Yes, it is to an extent. It is only natural as women are more reserved and don't send out as many unsolicited messages as men do, however there are women that are forward.



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27 Nov 2012, 10:19 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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so, the "unattractive" women got about the same number of messages as the "unattractive" men, rendering his list useless. the only people who got a lot of messages were the supposedly super-attractive women. also, dating sites have about equal numbers of men and women on them.

EDIT: his list should be like this:

1. "attractive" women
2. everyone else


48 compared to 1 or 2 messages isn't equal, is online dating about presentation? Yes, it is to an extent. It is only natural as women are more reserved and don't send out as many unsolicited messages as men do, however there are women that are forward.


As a woman, being too forward is not a good idea in my experience. You need to let the man come to you so you can be sure he likes you enough otherwise a lot of men get caught up in the novelty of a woman approaching them or 'trying to be nice' aspect of it. Either way it will blow up in your face and leave your ego shredded, take it from me!