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thank you for that.

Or maybe you yourself have no clue what you're arguing. It's always an option.

He was illustrating the lack of need for quantification

There is no requirement to quantify the obvious and any attempt to do so would be flawed or impractical

Its a really quite a low standard of argument really. Some arguments are like rides at a theme park, you have to have some attributes and a lack of others to ride.

Its far too onerous to ask for numbers and simply not required

the actual phrase that i said was:

....which i never said. how about let's stop misquoting me, ok?

Exactly.

And 1% of whether it's of men or of women is still a number that's too low for reality.

So if its not 99% what % is it.

Please poll EVERYONE on earth and get back to me.

You take facetiousness to new levels

I have to admit I'm slightly in awe of you!

to be fair, it was fun to see everyone go to great lengths to "prove" me wrong while never having to actually provide any evidence or solid facts, even going so far as to mock me!! ! and it was all over something that i didn't even say. ahhhhh WrongPlanet.

How many students had to sit in the corner today?

For whoever is after some evidence, I refer to this:

http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/aug2004/niaaa-02.htm

This is for the US, but one can extend this to the world. Note the percentage of those with ASPD and those with HPD (histrionic personality disorder). Now add to that the statistics that people with NPD are estimated to be around 1% of the population. And add in all the other types of people that may be considered pathological narcissists and abusers. And we have a percentage greater than 1%.

I know 70,000,000 is a large number but when it's out of 7 billion, it's not as large as it is when standing on its own.

I figured I'd just come in, be a smartass, and throw in a random answer just to lighten the mood of this thread. Honestly, I don't know how many people are abusive or narcissistic either, but unfortunately, from the people I know offline at least, it's quiiiiiite a few. But it very likely doesn't mean that it's even across the board.

I don't recall which thread it was, but I recall well you challenged me to estimate how much %; and you obviously believed it was 1% there.

Post the whole link of thread instead of selectively quoting.


Or you are not too brave to do that?

Sorry, hyperlexian, if you felt attacked. I don't think any of us meant it to be that way.

Boo, i never quoted a number - you decided i was saying 1%, and i didn't ever say that. if you want to keep arguing this, go back to the thread where you were originally debating this instead of dragging it over here (it was the friendzone thread).

it's ok, MCalavera. i appreciate that, though!! ! the original topic under discussion in the other thread was far different to what it morphed to over here. i am honestly not so deluded that i would think that sociopaths etc are incredibly rare (one book put them at 1/30 in the population <--- there's an actual number that i suspect might be true).

I used to be more skeptical of sociology and psychology, but after having spent extensive time with numerous sociologists and seeing how their work has been applied to the real world, I'm a bit more convinced.

http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/upl ... 899909.pdf
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... sonalities
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/i- ... 39857.aspx

You're at least marginally scientifically literate, is it really so hard for you face the reality that human being are, like all other animals, perfectly explainable? Everything we do can be broken down, just like every other aspect of this clockwork universe. There's already a lot of evidence out there, the piles of evidence explaining human sexual behavior get bigger and bigger every year.



Before I respond to this, are you one of those people that thinks all humans are magically created equal somehow? Let the Gods forbid a man from trying to rise above his peers, right? You seem like a very good example of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

You're the kind of person to chop down the taller poppies.



I started out as a Christian who desperately wanted to believe that God really does exist and that evil doers will actually be smited in hell and all that jazz. I'm not exactly known for holding on irrationally to viewpoints once the evidence begins to mount against me. Really, I'd prefer a universe a little more flowerly like the one you believe in, but that's just not what the preponderance of evidence points towards. It's harsh, it's brutal, but it's the truth, an ugly truth I wish would go away but...it won't.



My head is stuck in a hole called "hard reality". Yours is stuck in a hole that wants to believe humans are some magical creatures that defy the laws of the universe and that true altruism really exists. While I envy the fact that it lets you be happy, I don't envy holding wool over one's own eyes.



I would love to debate this further, but I'll be honest I have a hard time figuring out what you're trying to tell me. I'm going to guess that English isn't your first language, I'm really not following what you're saying.



To be fair, at least I've learned to stop hating people about it so much. We're all just a bunch of biological replicators doing whatever our biological programming tells us to do.

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