Up in the clouds and down in the dumpsters, in 1 week
Well, I hit off on another date with a girl from OK cupid recently. I talked to her much earlier but didn't make much of it because she was much taller then me (by about 5 inches) and I thought it would be weird. Then after another horrible date went wrong I decided to ignore that misgiving because dwelling on stupid physical differences are for neurotypicals. I asked her out and she agreed. I met her sort-of impromptu at a coffee shop near my work. She looked taller (and admittedly, a bit more attractive) then her profile. Didn't bother me so I went through the whole meet and greet routine with her. I made the unfortunate mistake of ordering an ice-blended drink while it was cold outside and ended up shivering through half our meeting. I even threw in a joke about. Anyways, for the time being, things thawed between us and it felt like I was talking to the first person who was interested and capable of holding a deep intellectual conversation with me. We ran the gamut of subjects, ranging from science, art, to star trek. Time had flown by rapidly and I had noticed that she was buttoning up her coat (the store owner also told us they were closing) so I decided it was time to leave the store. The problem was that I wanted to know more about her, but it was late and she wanted to head back. I decided rather out of the blue to ask if she wanted to see me for a movie or drink again. She said yes.
I waited three days (which I heard was the acceptable time to call someone after a good date) before I called her up to schedule another meeting. I told her I had a lot of fun in our meet prior to that in email and left it off at that. She said she was busy with work and didn't know how her schedule was going to be like in the next week. She sounded a little hesitant and nervous while she said that, come to think of it. I said it was alright, and I asked if she would call me back once things come into focus. Almost four days later I got no phone call from her, so I called and left a short message on her voice mail to keep in touch. Finally, yesterday, I had run into her on Google and asked what was wrong. She said she totally forgot about calling me, and that she had contract work on some storyboard for the next week. I told her I was very happy for her, and I didn't want to get in the way of her life. She suggested if we could talk again on Thursday. I thought it was OK and I told her good night and good luck.
Well, 5 min later I looked at her profile again on OK Cupid just out of curiosity, and her relationship status had changed from SINGLE to SEEING SOMEONE. I was panicky at the prospect that I had failed and she had met someone else, or that it could even be me. I clicked on a link in her profile and saw and updated journal where she talked about meeting someone who interested her because they were 'very kinky' in their profile on the same day that I had called and got busy messages. Worse, when I skimmed through her journal, apparently she had made what I believe to be references to some of the events that took place in our date - most notably the length of time it lasted and my behavior. It seems like the whole time she was trying to flake out on me, and while I had suspected it I didn't want to believe. But why would she still want to talk to me on Thursday? Unless she thinks I'm a total idiot, it is obvious that she had treated me pretty callously during the events after the first date. If she is waiting all this time to just 'officially' blow me off, or worse, give me the 'lets just be friends' business, I think I might just hang up on her.
This is depressing. Someone else got chosen over me just because they may have been a better lay in bed. It seems that OK Cupid is great for meeting people, but unless you're some kind of talented sex god with impossibly sharp social observation, you have no chance of hell beyond the first date. Writing this rant has released some of the tension in my system, but I'm beginning to think that I have no hope at all - stuck perpetually in a 'catch 22' zone.
Ignore the B&*(&£T I met one like it, not worth bothering putting yourself down about it... I made the mastake of picking up the phone after made a fool of me the first time she took the knife and shoved it in my back, plus it pushed me over the edge, worse part is her job is going to be a social worker when she gets out of collage...
Honestly I think dating sites are some of the worst places for meeting people. You're better off meeting someone who shares your interests. A good place to meet people is a forum such as this one. Most of the people on dating sites are either desperate, vain, creepy and all of the aforementioned. Plus the monthly fee thing is just an absolute rip off IMO.
finally someone that agrees with me.
I know this is a generalisation, but; There are two kinds of people in this world: Those that will lie or just not bother telling the truth, and those that tell the truth and get to the point. Most of the time you have to do a bit of detective work to get proper answers, and it sucks when you find what you were/werent looking for ![]()
Update: I finally got a hold of her, and we talked on the phone a bit. She of course told me about her attraction to someone else and I sheeplishly admitted to finding out the hard way. She said she got a 'friend thing' out of me, and I told her how I noticed what I thought to see signs of attraction coming from her during our date. She replied by saying she does that to all the people she talked to, and that I might have thought she was leaning foward simply because we were both at a small table. I kind of didnt want to pressure her into more questions, and I was frustrated, so I just asked if she wanted to go out for another meeting.
So a little while later now, I am going to meet her again for a walk in the park on Thursday. I guess I am kind of confused what to do here. I hate being called 'just a friend' because I dont think its fair to label somebody you hardly know, yet do not hate as just a friend. It just seems like its jumping to conclusions. At the same time, I am afraid that if I am just a friend to her, I would be sidelined by artificial constraints of this friendship. Do I tell her I like her, do I give it one more shot. Do I just bury the hatchet and accept things the way they are? I've asked for advice from my co-workers, and the male ones said to go-for-broke and just tell her how I feel. If she still wanted to be friends, they said I should just leave it at that and go home.
What do the females on this forum think I can do. Is it selfish for me to want to pull out the 'friend zone'. Would it put her off if I told her my feelings or if I persued her?
Dude, why the hell are hanging around for a second beating. The first date can be considered the physical attraction test. From what I read of your posts so far, you failed. Though before you get upset even more, remember the issue is with her. There is definately women out there that will find you attractive.
So where are we up to? You've met and she's seen what you're like in person. She finds you interesting enough as a person to talk to but does not find you attractive. Hence her putting you into the "friend" basket. Your interest level in her is much higher than hers in you. Therefore, move on. Throw away the number and keep searching.
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