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Hmm. In today's society, the women can pick and choose men in the same way that men can pick and choose women. Does that offset the imbalance? For example, the bias in the workplace is towards men. Could there be a scenario where women have to work harder to get jobs in order to prove their worth to men, but the men, while having an easier time getting a job, have to work harder in other ways to prove their worth to women?

A thread that lasts for 23 pages might be a sign as to why women don't like nice guys: THEY DON'T GET TO THE FREAKING POINT. Consider that women get approached all the time. If you can't sum up an idea in a few thoughts, you don't know what you are talking about. Whether that's a "fact" or not is completely irrelevant; its real life. Life is not a WrongPlanet thread.

Also, if women are really this bad, then maybe you shouldn't be approaching a species of humanoid so foul and vicious.

This thread is 23 pages long because there are some members having pointless ego reactions and dragging it out that far.

I daresay it's the pointless ego reactions driving women off IRL too.

Assuming only guys have contributed to those 23 pages? Only self-professed nice guys? So if I sum up an idea in a few thoughts it means I know what I'm talking about otherwise I don't? I don't really understand the purpose of your comment.

Although it's true there hasn't been a lot of progress. And there have been some great and concise posts too, which have not been answered so far.

Well, good point... except.... mmm.... entering this thread is frakking volonteer. Nobody approaches you and say 'hey, look at it, hey, look at it, why don't you look at it?'. This is a private space, and it's your own decission to click in the link and enter.

Besides that, this is debate thread. And I don't see the problem in a 23 pages debate thread. How should it be? a couple of pages is enough? Or even better, a twitter message? It looks like some people in the internet generation have problems reading anything longer than a dozen paragraphs.



That's not exactly true. One of the things that those reports men vs women salaries doesn't say it that salaries for both genders that have entered the workmarket are quite similar.

Why is that reports don't show this? Well, they don't use to strate by age. So old women generation that have a worse CV are included, and women that had children and decided to focus on them (decreasing their future income evolution) are included too. Together. But if you take new generations before having children (or after having children for women that decide to keep focusing in their careeer in the same degree, though this would be very difficult to sample), you have similar incomes.

You have here, for example, an article about the subject: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina ... 73804.html But you won't hear of it You will keep hearing how women are less paid that men, because this is the 'politically correct statement'. Is reality bothers the statistics, f**k reality.

There's a lot of manipulation about men-women. For example, the rape statistics, they are highly manipulated. Yeap. Rape. Manipulated. To put an example, the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NIPSVS) by the CDC, Centers for Disease Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_fo ... Prevention states that 21 million women have been female victims of rape



While only 1.5 million men were male victims of rape...



Though, wait... women that were penetrated by force were raped, while men that were forced to penetrate... oops, they're were NOT raped. So they won't appear in this rape statistics unless you check the table. But most of people don't check the tables, they just read the headlines.

There was a case, in Canada, I don't remember where's the link right now, where after including men in domestic violence surveys and seeing that statistics were showing a really high women-on-men violence, the statistics typification was changed too to get it back to the politically correct 'no balanced' mode.

Why is all this so manipulated? Because it's not equality what is looked for, but privileges.

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I'm talking about summing up your thoughts IN REAL LIFE. Not on here. Anyone can sound smart on the Internet because you don't have to know what you are talking about. Sum up your feelings (Your feelings, not your facts, you do have feelings, right?) V E R B A L L Y and if you can't do that, then work on it. Work on saying it out loud.

Sorry? And why are you stating that I'm not clear and I don't sum up my thoughts in real life? Do you f*****g know me in real life? What s**t is this?

Sorry Greb; I thought you wanted to improve your social skills. Guess you just want to feel sorry for yourself and whine about injustice. My sincere apologies. Continue torturing yourself.

OK. More insults. Again. Well, nothing new.

Whether or not you count men forced to penetrate as male victims of rape, the total is still much smaller the total female victims of rape. So frankly those statistics don't prove what you seem to think they prove.

If we compare total 'penetrated by force' with 'forced to penetrate', it's a 3:1 ratio.

Much smaller. If you say so...

Wow,I read two pages and got a headache,if you all are nice guys you sure don't act very nice to each other,it's like a damm cock fight.

He's waiting for everyone to fall over in exhaustion and acquiesce in our feebled state.

Indeed, I was waiting for people able to talk instead of insults and personal attacks. Anyway, it's interesting to check what every side can offer in a debate.



Check last pages and you'll see that this is not a damn cock fight. This is people who hold one position insulting people who don't agree with them without being provoked and that keep insulting even when they're answered in a calm and reasonable way. And insulting again. And again.

And again. Basically most of this thread are insults.

It's not a cock fight. It's harassment, that is a very different thing. And I keep posting because I think it's good to show which are people's arguments in this subject. And because I'm too old to be affected or care about some guys with a dirty mouth.

I think greb, all you are doing is having a rant against women to make you feel better about yourself. Rather than blaming yourself you are taking the blame off yourself. Where as you shouldn't blame yourself or women.

Women do like nice guys. I know this. They don't like jerks and men that are not nice. It's a trait that works in your favour. I know plenty of nice guys that are successful with women, but you see being nice is just one trait they have.

I can think of a guy I know, probably one of the nicest guys I've known. He is tall, good looking, very out going(social), maybe assertive and women absolutely love him.

If you keep going down this road, all you are going to do is hate women and thus not be a nice guy anymore. Which will just make things worse for yourself.

I do think women go for the alpha and men can become an alpha by being mean and dominating other people. That is what you are on about. But you can also become an alpha by sticking up for yourself and things that you think are right.

But don't listen to me then, what would I know? please continue on your merry way.