are confident ''ugly''women ''attractive''

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04 Dec 2013, 1:24 am

I've have seen ''ugly''women,who had
no trouble attraction men,of course i've
seen ''ugly'' women who couldn't attract men.

the ''ugly''women who had
no trouble attraction men,are very confident,
they never whine how ''ugly''they are,
they seem to enjoy life,and have a fun personality.

where the ''ugly''women who struggles,tend
to have low self esteem,always talk how
ugly they are,how no one could ever like them.
seem angry and bitter.

so.would it be fair to say,''ugly'' women who have confidence,
and good self esteem can be attractive.



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04 Dec 2013, 2:03 am

Define ugly. What you find ugly, I could find beautiful. Ugly as a descriptor is completely useless because it is entirely subjective.


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04 Dec 2013, 2:06 am

I'm not good looking at all. Without makeup and doing my hair, I look like the back end of a mule. I'm butt ugly. But, when I do my makeup and my hair and put on clothes I like, I feel fairly nice looking. This gives me confidence. That makes me look better to others.

I also have one of those personalities where I'm engaging and fun to talk to and my personality can be attractive even if I'm not. I'm interesting. Not here usually, but out there where I'm talking to people. Here I usually just b***h, or be snarky, or give advice, or just ramble on about nothing.

My worst quality is my teeth. I had terrible teeth growing up. Huge overbite, made Freddy Mercury look like he didn't need braces so bad. They were also brownish yellow because I had all those respiratory infections from the constant second hand smoke in my home, so I was on Tetracycline almost constantly. This made my permanent teeth come in brownish yellow. Nothing could be done about it. My mother wasn't all that concerned about my overbite and crooked teeth so when I was 17 I made an appointment at the orthodontist, went and got braces put on and had them send her the bill. She hit the roof. Well, for 12 years she was all over me and doing everything she could because I was so "sick" and "fragile" but when I grew up and was healthy she could give a rats ass about anything else I actually needed. After I got my braces off I had straight teeth but they were still ugly brownish yellow. My choices were caps, which I was afraid would feel funny to me, or a new technique called bonding. This was 1985 or so. I went with bonding. They ground the fronts down and then put on some sort of porcelain wannabe. They were white. I finally had white teeth. I did not smoke or drink coffee back then at all. I was warned not to because they would stain, but I didn't anyway so it wasn't a problem. However, I wasn't told that over the years they would naturally yellow and have to be rebounded. They have done so. By the time I started smoking and drinking coffee (5 or so years later - you're supposed to replace bonding every two years they said then) they were already yellow. They haven't gotten any worse even though I smoke and drink coffee and tea. They are yellow now, even though I take great care of them. Whitening stuff doesn't work on bonding. They don't do that anymore really and now my choices are veneers which are too expensive. So, I am very self conscious about my smile, but I don't think about it much in public anymore. I'm sure that people notice, but they don't stare. If I could get my teeth white again, and possibly fix my big ole dago nose, and maybe get an eye lift and my jaw skin tightened a little I'd look much better.

But I can't, so I work with what I have. Tanning makes my teeth look whiter, which is why I go to a tanning bed when I can. But yes, confidence and personality can cover a multitude of flaws.



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04 Dec 2013, 2:10 am

I think it's more than whining, anger and bitterness are unattractive. People would rather be around someone who they can have fun with than someone who they're constantly saying "No, you're not ugly, and I'm not hanging out with you because I can't get anyone better" to.


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04 Dec 2013, 3:46 am

There is a lot to confidence and how a person carries himself or herself.

As well as the fine zen art of undertrying, as well as staying casually open to appreciating the other person. It's a little like writing a song, might seem effortless, but actually a lot goes into it.



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04 Dec 2013, 4:36 am

Dynania wrote:
Define ugly. What you find ugly, I could find beautiful. Ugly as a descriptor is completely useless because it is entirely subjective.


Beauty isn't that subjective.

Some celebs are seen 99% of people as attractive, while others are seen 99% of them as ugly.

If it's true that beauty is that subject and seen totally differently by every individual then make up, fashion, beauty pageants wouldn't exist, the words "beautiful" and "ugly" wouldn't exist in dictionary either.



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04 Dec 2013, 5:32 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Dynania wrote:
Define ugly. What you find ugly, I could find beautiful. Ugly as a descriptor is completely useless because it is entirely subjective.


Beauty isn't that subjective.

Some celebs are seen 99% of people as attractive, while others are seen 99% of them as ugly.

If it's true that beauty is that subject and seen totally differently by every individual then make up, fashion, beauty pageants wouldn't exist, the words "beautiful" and "ugly" wouldn't exist in dictionary either.


That isn't real beauty. It's a carefully manufactured idea used to sell something.


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04 Dec 2013, 5:48 am

Dynania wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Dynania wrote:
Define ugly. What you find ugly, I could find beautiful. Ugly as a descriptor is completely useless because it is entirely subjective.


Beauty isn't that subjective.

Some celebs are seen 99% of people as attractive, while others are seen 99% of them as ugly.

If it's true that beauty is that subjective and seen totally differently by every individual then make up, fashion, beauty pageants wouldn't exist, the words "beautiful" and "ugly" wouldn't exist in dictionary either.


That isn't real beauty. It's a carefully manufactured idea used to sell something.


And how is that relevant to my point about the subjectivity of beauty? It doesn't matter if it's artificially manufactured or not, what matters that it isn't that subjective in the world.



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04 Dec 2013, 5:56 am

I'd be more likely to sleep with a woman that's plain but seems to have a fun and sexy personality than a hot chick who's a cold fish. Once the lights are off and you're tumbling between the bedsheets, that sexy personality really gets the chance to shine!

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I've have seen ''ugly''women,who had
no trouble attraction men,of course i've
seen ''ugly'' women who couldn't attract men.

the ''ugly''women who had
no trouble attraction men,are very confident,
they never whine how ''ugly''they are,
they seem to enjoy life,and have a fun personality.

where the ''ugly''women who struggles,tend
to have low self esteem,always talk how
ugly they are,how no one could ever like them.
seem angry and bitter.

so.would it be fair to say,''ugly'' women who have confidence,
and good self esteem can be attractive.


Billis you have a very peculiar manner of spacing, like you're constructing a poem or something...



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04 Dec 2013, 2:19 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Dynania wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Dynania wrote:
Define ugly. What you find ugly, I could find beautiful. Ugly as a descriptor is completely useless because it is entirely subjective.


Beauty isn't that subjective.

Some celebs are seen 99% of people as attractive, while others are seen 99% of them as ugly.

If it's true that beauty is that subjective and seen totally differently by every individual then make up, fashion, beauty pageants wouldn't exist, the words "beautiful" and "ugly" wouldn't exist in dictionary either.


That isn't real beauty. It's a carefully manufactured idea used to sell something.


And how is that relevant to my point about the subjectivity of beauty? It doesn't matter if it's artificially manufactured or not, what matters that it isn't that subjective in the world.

Well I always say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but sheer ugliness isn't."



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04 Dec 2013, 2:36 pm

Let me put it this way. I knew a woman whose looks were what you might call atypical. But she was so smart and had such a great soul within her, that she became so beautiful to me, and downright irresistible.

Conversely, I've known very, very beautiful women who couldn't have been uglier if they had a hump and elephantiasis, because they had absolutely nothing going on inside...no ambition, no intellectual curiosity, no demonstrable empathy...nothing within that corresponded to their great physical beauty, and so that beauty was negated and I found them repellant.



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04 Dec 2013, 3:43 pm

Personality is all I care about.

Even hot women I see off the street I'm inclined to not really care much for because I don't know her.

It's hard for me to be attracted to what I don't know.

Yes, there are some women that are so gorgeous I can see them from afar and go, "Hm, yeah she's cute."
But for 95% of the population of women, I don't pay attention to them unless I know them.

Women that may be considered as unattractive by my peers, I may find good looking because I'm attracted to their personalities.

The only thing I have never had this work for is severe weight problems. I have had female friends who were on the larger side and I was good friends with them but I never became attracted to them as more than that.

I guess I am just not attracted to larger women. I feel bad about it though, but I can't help it. :?

But any woman who ranges in weight from thin to average or maybe a little heavier than usual and her face ranges from what most would deem ugly or to hot diggity; All of that leaves me the potential to find her drop dead gorgeous if her personality is right.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:40 am

I think you can learn to look past it if the woman has a good personality. It depends on how ugly she is though. Even if she is really ugly but has a good personality, you can still find her attractive as a friend but not as a sex partner or girlfriend.

I honestly don't like really good-looking girls most of the time, unless they have good personalities. (I know this is subjective but it seems like girls who are less attractive usually have better personalities.)

Looks aren't that important to me. I don't like being around people much anyway, so if I am going to spend time with someone, they better at least have a good personality. If they do, I can find something physically about them that I like (most of the time).



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06 Dec 2013, 4:21 am

I was attracted to that when I was single. Looks are unimportant to me & I felt I could relate to them & that they'd might give me a chance.


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06 Dec 2013, 10:22 pm

I have Mick Avory's face and I'm beautiful.


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