Men should start judging women's success too.

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06 Dec 2013, 2:43 am

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A man's loyalty is tested once he has everything. A woman's loyalty is tested once her man has nothing. Ambition varies to individuals at times. You can feel supreme about your future in your early 20s. Have everything planned out. But also, you could end up finding your dream job/career at 33, and it could have nothing to do with the career you chose in your 20s.
If I become a star, celebrity, millionaire. I would be extremely hesitant on dating a woman who is equal to my social class. Successful women can have egos bigger than professional athletes . They will compete with you. And I don't have time for that. I don't want a woman to compete with me. I want her to grow with me. I'd date a successful woman as long as she doesn't let the success replace her as a person. If I happened to spot a woman working as a cashier at a supermaket and she was down to earth, gave a damn about her life, had good priorities. I'd take her over a "successful" woman any day. Success is not always measured in money.

I'd get the "Double Check" women often in dating. Those are the ones who bring their checklist with them. Do you have a car? Where do you live? Where you see yourself in five years? What job you do? It's okay to ask some background questions, but some information is just none of your business. If the guy can take care of himself, that's all that matters. If he can take you out on occasional dates, that's all that matters. It was like applying for a job.


And it's this mindset of yours that over-empowers women and weaken men in dating; most successful women would not date a cashier man no matter what.

Also a cashier girl if she's studying something or has future plans is not the same as the cashier who's just waiting for a groom to save her ass, however most working women wouldn't even consider the male equivalent of the former cashier.

By accepting unambitious and uninteresting cashiers while you are a career man means that you are giving their femininity too much value for granted - a value that equates your hardworking and success.

As for the interview-like date thing, this is done by a lot of women, successful or not, and it's the dynamics I've talked about and the mindset of yours is what gave women the "employer" status in dating while men are just candidates. Have you asked them back the same questions? When they do that, you should ask them and you should be as critic as them.

It's time to start thinking like women when we select, this is what basically the article saying.



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06 Dec 2013, 3:54 am

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While in return, all what men they demand from women is good looks and loyalty - so while men have to work their asses to meet women's demands, all what the women have to do to be competitive in the dating market is getting nice looks and loyalty (which the latter can so easily be adopted or faked), and getting nice looks isn't hard for most young girls nowadays, with all the make up, surgeries and hairstyle tricks is all fairly easier than becoming financially successful, independent, sociable, handsome, interesting and ...and .....and.... all this have unequally empowered women in the dating market by making them the nitpickers while men are the nitpickees.


Good look is all you need to become a whore. Man like to f**k goodlooking woman, but most woman are interested in something more then becoming prostitutes. If you are that cheap kind of man, that you are sufficient with a good looking whore its ok, but most men, have more expectations on their lifepartner. ^^



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06 Dec 2013, 4:02 am

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While in return, all what men they demand from women is good looks and loyalty - so while men have to work their asses to meet women's demands, all what the women have to do to be competitive in the dating market is getting nice looks and loyalty (which the latter can so easily be adopted or faked), and getting nice looks isn't hard for most young girls nowadays, with all the make up, surgeries and hairstyle tricks is all fairly easier than becoming financially successful, independent, sociable, handsome, interesting and ...and .....and.... all this have unequally empowered women in the dating market by making them the nitpickers while men are the nitpickees.


Good look is all you need to become a whore. Man like to f**k goodlooking woman, but most woman are interested in something more then becoming prostitutes. If you are that cheap kind of man, that you are sufficient with a good looking whore its ok, but most men, have more expectations on their lifepartner. ^^


No, I am not talking about whore and I am not cheap, Shneek.

Good looks and sane mind are basically all what a young woman needs to become potential gf/groom to most men, and you know that - and it's the fault of men, I am blaming men exclusively and so the author of the article.



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06 Dec 2013, 7:48 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's time to start thinking like women when we select, this is what basically the article saying.


Men have too much testosterone to think like women. Unless men's testosterone level were reduced to women's level their focus would be primarily on sex when choosing their partners.



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06 Dec 2013, 7:59 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's time to start thinking like women when we select, this is what basically the article saying.


Men have too much testosterone to think like women. Unless men's testosterone level were reduced to women's level their focus would be primarily on sex when choosing their partners.


We're not horny 24/7.



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06 Dec 2013, 8:16 am

Maybe not you, but many men are.



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06 Dec 2013, 9:41 am

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Maybe not you, but many men are.


I don't think it's the norm.
How can they funtion in life like that?



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06 Dec 2013, 9:44 am

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I've had a think about this a bit more. I too think this is a bit too business oriented. Although it is from a business blog, but not everyone wants to be successful in business. Some people, like me, don't have a business brain. Should we really be "judging" people on their commercial success?
Most women have been doing it with men for centuries.

Do you mean like, "Does he have a job?", "How much does he make?", and "How much is he willing to spend?" ... that kind of judgment?


Yup, and there are many common indirect ways they do too, like checking his shoes for instance.



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06 Dec 2013, 3:42 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Shaded wrote:
A man's loyalty is tested once he has everything. A woman's loyalty is tested once her man has nothing. Ambition varies to individuals at times. You can feel supreme about your future in your early 20s. Have everything planned out. But also, you could end up finding your dream job/career at 33, and it could have nothing to do with the career you chose in your 20s.
If I become a star, celebrity, millionaire. I would be extremely hesitant on dating a woman who is equal to my social class. Successful women can have egos bigger than professional athletes . They will compete with you. And I don't have time for that. I don't want a woman to compete with me. I want her to grow with me. I'd date a successful woman as long as she doesn't let the success replace her as a person. If I happened to spot a woman working as a cashier at a supermaket and she was down to earth, gave a damn about her life, had good priorities. I'd take her over a "successful" woman any day. Success is not always measured in money.

I'd get the "Double Check" women often in dating. Those are the ones who bring their checklist with them. Do you have a car? Where do you live? Where you see yourself in five years? What job you do? It's okay to ask some background questions, but some information is just none of your business. If the guy can take care of himself, that's all that matters. If he can take you out on occasional dates, that's all that matters. It was like applying for a job.


And it's this mindset of yours that over-empowers women and weaken men in dating; most successful women would not date a cashier man no matter what.

Also a cashier girl if she's studying something or has future plans is not the same as the cashier who's just waiting for a groom to save her ass, however most working women wouldn't even consider the male equivalent of the former cashier.

By accepting unambitious and uninteresting cashiers while you are a career man means that you are giving their femininity too much value for granted - a value that equates your hardworking and success.

As for the interview-like date thing, this is done by a lot of women, successful or not, and it's the dynamics I've talked about and the mindset of yours is what gave women the "employer" status in dating while men are just candidates. Have you asked them back the same questions? When they do that, you should ask them and you should be as critic as them.

It's time to start thinking like women when we select, this is what basically the article saying.


No I haven't asked them the same questions because on dates I would rather talk about something fun or interesting. Just because a person is a cashier doesn't make them unambitious. You look at how a person carries themselves. I figure, you never know a person's story. But if the woman was down to earth, cared about her life. took care of herself, yes I would date her. Money isn't everything to me. It's what in the heart that matters. Not everyone think like that which I understand.


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06 Dec 2013, 3:53 pm

Yuzu wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's time to start thinking like women when we select, this is what basically the article saying.


Men have too much testosterone to think like women. Unless men's testosterone level were reduced to women's level their focus would be primarily on sex when choosing their partners.


In the article somebody said that the successful men doesn't really care about the status of the woman. He'll choose the woman who is the sexiest and have the most sex with him. Lol


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06 Dec 2013, 4:20 pm

I agree very much with the basic premise of this thread. You see it all the time where the guys are bitter and resentful that women seemingly have such high standards. Meanwhile those same guys base 90% of thier dating criteria on physical attractiveness. Perhaps most women's standards just seem high because most men have such low ones.

That being said, I wouldn't flat out reject a person for being underemployed, living with her parents and/or without a vehicle but it certainly doesn't help much in my eyes. I prefer to date independent women who wouldn't need to rely on me for everything if we started a relationship.



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06 Dec 2013, 5:11 pm

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I agree very much with the basic premise of this thread. You see it all the time where the guys are bitter and resentful that women seemingly have such high standards. Meanwhile those same guys base 90% of thier dating criteria on physical attractiveness. Perhaps most women's standards just seem high because most men have such low ones.

That being said, I wouldn't flat out reject a person for being underemployed, living with her parents and/or without a vehicle but it certainly doesn't help much in my eyes. I prefer to date independent women who wouldn't need to rely on me for everything if we started a relationship.


Damn right, if only some influential people can do some Men awareness movement (totally different than the MRA) to set things right.

I wouldn't be surprised if it faces a lot of opposition from men and women alike, a lot of people fear such dramatic change (ring ring...feminism).



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06 Dec 2013, 6:13 pm

Hmmmm.... :scratch:

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Well, it's up to him, and he seems to like Penny.



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06 Dec 2013, 6:36 pm

The term "successful", at least in American terms, is usually associated with a narcissistic personality disorder.

When I think of "successful woman", the movie

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comes to mind. And, the "devil" in the movie had a lot in common with a number of real-life she-devils that I have encountered.

So, for me, a successful, professional woman is generally someone to avoid to the greatest extent possible. Romance? Forget it!



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06 Dec 2013, 6:47 pm

^^^Then a good place for you to look for women would be a laundromat.Very successful women usually have someone else do their laundry,dry cleaners,the maid,etc...
And if you have most of your teeth and a car you will be considered a real catch.


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