What do women look for in a male body?

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Quite true....but I have a solution...If I beg, will you choose me????

Just messing!!

Beggars can be choosers, you can beg for one thing, but available choice might only allow you another thing.

Ahh, well that can be worked on.

Interestingly, I have a theoretical type, and I have a serious trend in what type I actually do go for - and they aren't similar at all!

I like a guy to be the same height or taller than me (and I'm five ten), and I don't really care about muscles. I don't, however, like guys who are more than just mildly overweight - I mean, the occasional metabolic problem aside, it usually signifies an inactive lifestyle and a lack of care for their personal well-being - and it's that, rather than the actual physical appearance, that I find unattractive. I suppose I usually go for an "average", lightly-muscled build (but the muscles than one gets from having an active life rather than doing circuits at the gym). And I have to say that the topic has come up and not a single one of my female friends find the bulky muscular build attractive - in fact, we are all rather repulsed by it. Also, to the poster who said she likes broad shoulders... I gotta admit, I'm with you there.

But that being said, a man's personality really does matter to me far, far, far more than physical appearance does. I think a good rule is just to take care of yourself physically (be healthy!) and try to be true to your own personality and also to be the best (kind, fair) person you can.

It's amazing how girls on this board usually start describing in refined detail what physical traits in males they like and what they don't like , listing what are the big yes yes and the big no nos , and list physical conditions in order to accept the guy (ie. must not be more than mindly overweight , must be lightly-muscled build , must be same height and taller...) ....

and all of the sudden, at the end of the post they conclude with a personality cliche' statement such as "personality is far more important than all his...."

I mean, c'mon...

Well I DO think that women are more interested in a man's social status and wealth than his looks. But when women say "personality" I honestly DO believe that there are certain personality traits and abilities that women are wired to find attractive-such as high social intelligence/good social skills AND artistic/musical talent. There are many ugly guys who get some pretty hawt chicks by either playing in a rock band or being the life of the party . But in the eyes of women, good looks and even big muscles cant compensate for being socially clumsy and/or awkward. The ONLY think that about a mans appearance that women consistently judge seems to be height. Most women find height attractive and obesity actively UNattractive.

Agreed they put more emphasis on looks than they'll admit. However, you could be the most muscled down charmer in the world, but without personality you'd be f***ed. More true for males than females.

and that "without personality" is more broad what what you think ....

Right, I don't want to be offensive here, but all of these things are either 1) primate status correlates or 2) primate mating displays. It is grotesquely simple to assume that women would go only for looks (even by my simple primate model), when genetic fitness has many more correlates in primate society, particular when it comes to males. Good example was I think in Jane Goodall's research; in ape societies higher ranking males always get the most action simply by the way they're structured; among chimps, for example, one means of establishing dominance is displays. There was a small low ranking chimp who managed to learn to use empty cans he raided from their camps in his displays, and this propelled him up the status ladder. I mean, there's a lot of nuance here that a "looks" only model simply can't capture and makes no sense when compared with our ape relatives.

I mean, the most "successful" guy I know is decidedly unimpressive in terms of body, or talents, but he *just happens* to be a social hyper-savant.

Don't speak so much crap, I don't like what you're saying here, I don't approve of any of your posts

Oh, but you have a good personality

I completely agree. Is it a cliche? I don't know...that makes it sound like a bad thing. Its about 50/50 for me - personality vs. looks.

A guy that is "pretty" is too high-maintenance for me. I like a guy with nice eyes, broad shoulders, and a GREAT sense of humor. Sometimes (as with my husband) a little baldness or a bit of a tummy - is needed - just to keep them humble and grounded.

I guess its the same with women, if they are too "perfect" they don't have to use their brains as much throughout their lives and they just become dull.

No, this is what I call total honesty with self.

and I respect that.

^ Maybe she's still lying and really meant 40/60

(btw this is not meant to be a slight against MmeLePen, just attempting to make a point.)

Though you may not believe me - I can honestly say that my original dating model looked more like 80/20 personality/looks. I definately regret buying into the 'looks are not important' BS and now my model looks a little more like 55/45.

twoshots: I actuallly AGREE with you that women tend to more concerned with high-status correlates as well as specific personality traits that suggest genetic health and that looks are secondary. But I DO maintain that the one aspect of a mans physical appearance that women do desire in men is tallness. Men judge women by their weight and women judge men by their height.
I think women tend to size men up based on certain physical and mental abilities like athletic ability, social adeptivity, AND creativity. Musical and artistic talent seems to be Very attractive to women, particularly the former. Thats why a lot of young men who can play an instrument get into bands so they can get girls. An anology of this in the animal world is the mating calls of songbirds in springtime.

So I may not be the ideal girl to choose to answer such a question but I think the answer is fairly obvious so I will give my response to: "What do women look for in a male body?"

Answer: Vital organs. ...at least I would hope they do.

I also do believe what, what I hardly believe are idealistic statements such like "personality conquers all" or "when personality is good nothing else matters" , it doesn't and it can't be unless if the person is asexual.