What? No step by step guide for adult aspies?

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06 Jun 2009, 9:24 pm

Yea, what I said. Why can't we have a step by step guide for aspies to get their social skills and their life on track?


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06 Jun 2009, 9:29 pm

I'm sure there are books that serve as guides for adults with AS.
I can't name a specific one at the moment, but I'm halfway through the book called "Succeeding in College with Asperger's Syndrome" and it explains many social nuances. However, it's obviously specifically for those who are in college/going to attend college.


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06 Jun 2009, 9:33 pm

Just press a bunch of buttons until something happens.

This was a sarcastic post btw. That's kind of my life motto.


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06 Jun 2009, 11:17 pm

pensieve wrote:
Just press a bunch of buttons until something happens.
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or 'percussive maintance' by smacking the thing till it works.


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06 Jun 2009, 11:19 pm

I notice that most books are marketed to parents of children with Asperger's. Cynically I suspect selling to the parents is easier than to the undiagnosed and recently diagnosed adults. I know I have bad thoughts and wont make friends saying things like this.



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07 Jun 2009, 12:23 am

pensieve wrote:
Just press a bunch of buttons until something happens.

This was a sarcastic post btw. That's kind of my life motto.

I like it. ;D

Anyway, someone recently posted a link to a social conduct video on here that was hilarious but also really accurate and detailed. It was instructions on giving a man-hug, and there were several others like it. That's all I remember, but it should be enough to find it by on google.


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07 Jun 2009, 12:25 am

flamingshorts wrote:
I notice that most books are marketed to parents of children with Asperger's. Cynically I suspect selling to the parents is easier than to the undiagnosed and recently diagnosed adults. I know I have bad thoughts and wont make friends saying things like this.

lawl, no, you're probably right. It's because we're all unemployed and broke, as opposed to parents, who will basically buy anything kid-related. (I'M the one who's not going to be making any friends. :B )


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07 Jun 2009, 1:28 am

sinsboldly wrote:
pensieve wrote:
Just press a bunch of buttons until something happens.
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or 'percussive maintance' by smacking the thing till it works.


:lol:
That's a brilliant term.


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07 Jun 2009, 1:44 am

lets make a step by step guide like a wiki for newly diagnosed aspies

step #1 don't fart in public
step #2 get a hair cut


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07 Jun 2009, 1:44 am

Someone really should write a good guide to how to succeed socially as an aspie. Maybe NTs don't know social skills well enough to write it and that's why it hasn't been done that I know of. Should an aspie write it?

My attempt: I know a 12 step program would probably be better, but I only feel like half of that.

Step 1. Rob a few banks 8O

Step 2. Don't get caught 8)

Step 3. Flaunt your wealth to attract member of opposite sex :afro:

Step 4. Sign pre nuptial agreement :nerdy:

Step 5. Marry :bom:

Step 6. Have kids :help:

*sarcasm* GoatOnFire is not liable for any damages caused from following this advice.


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07 Jun 2009, 4:54 am

Learning2Survive wrote:
Why can't we have a step by step guide for aspies to get their social skills and their life on track?


Because the non-verbal is non-verbal for a reason. Namely, because saying it outloud would be uncovering an underworld that we're all supposed to pretend doesn't exist in society. Nobody wants to write the "king is nude" truth, and nobody wants to publish it either. Even parents of Autistic kids have admitted that they feel extremely uncomfortable teaching them verbally what they can't pick up non-verbally, because it's admitting that society is a lot more phony than is usually acknowledged.


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07 Jun 2009, 5:03 pm

I will work on it, but my working title is, "Pandering To Apes."



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07 Jun 2009, 5:34 pm

I'm working on it too. The title is "How To Learn THE SECRET CODE so YOU - YES YOU - can communicate with Chattering Monkeys."

And of course it is just a working title, as I am loathe to offend any true monkeys when the guide finally goes to print.



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07 Jun 2009, 5:35 pm

I think "Pandering to Great Apes" would be a more positive title.

People are not monkeys.



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07 Jun 2009, 6:48 pm

^whatever............... :roll:



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07 Jun 2009, 10:30 pm

Greentea wrote:
Learning2Survive wrote:
Why can't we have a step by step guide for aspies to get their social skills and their life on track?


Because the non-verbal is non-verbal for a reason. Namely, because saying it outloud would be uncovering an underworld that we're all supposed to pretend doesn't exist in society. Nobody wants to write the "king is nude" truth, and nobody wants to publish it either. Even parents of Autistic kids have admitted that they feel extremely uncomfortable teaching them verbally what they can't pick up non-verbally, because it's admitting that society is a lot more phony than is usually acknowledged.


Doesn't this strike you as odd? After all, everybody knows how things really are - even we figure it out eventually. Or it's just my total lack of understanding of taboos? I can see why people don't like somebody who shouts an unpleasant truth from the rooftops - but why such reluctance of having a discreet conversation with your own child? It's not like we don't notice anyway how phony society is and we'll only judge people more harshly if these things are not explained to us. As a teenager I ended up thinking everybody uses double standards and will try to take advantage of others - it took me a very long time to understand the difference between defence mechanisms and plain cruelty.

I suspect a lot of people are actually incapable of expressing these things - they are born with an instinctive knowledge (that can be further developed) of what can/can not be said/done and just take it for granted (also assuming that everybody else has the same abilities). Some of these protocols are actually so complicated and strange when you try to put them into words and rationalize them, they seem so absurd from a strictly logical point of view - maybe that's what's causing the discomfort - to suddenly be confronted with your vain/emotional/irrational side and try to justify it in front of someone that doesn't empathise with it?

Or is it that admitting these weaknesses would imply that people should change? Many seem to perceive discussing unwritten rules as an opened and deliberate attack, like the very core of their nature and existence as social beings is being questioned and immediately become extremely defensive.


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