Why nice guys are not nice.
r1x wrote:
Roman wrote:
r1x wrote:
I'll translate what Anita was saying to you--"I spent months trying to turn you into an undead love slave who did not eat, drink, breath or use the restroom without thinking of how it would affect me. I thought it would be easy because you were a geek. I now see it isn't going to work and I'm off to find a man with weaker willpower. But I can't tell you that to your face, so I'm going to use your tiredness to tell all my girlfriends you completly ignored me so they won't think I'm actually the problem...and they will all tell me I'm to nice to these jerks".
Yeah except she didn't complain I ignored her; she said I was "pouting".
My appologies to both Roman and Anna. I was sarcasticly over simplyfing things for the sake of humor, and I hope it was taken that way. There is no magic formula for attraction and relationships.
It must have looked very simple to HER since she decided to be so blatantly rude about it.
PS. Her name is Anita, not Anna.
r1x wrote:
yet again, I stand corrected. Anita
Actually you were very close to evaluating her in terms of the way she was all over me and asking about every breath or whatever. I was just correcting details, not a big picture. I felt a need to get all the details straight.
So, going back to big picture, are you saying it is female version of creepiness because, as sweet as it is, it alwasy leads to a horrible endings, similar to the one I had with Anita.
MsDoubt wrote:
AnnaLemma wrote:
Just some observations, because I shared offices/cubicles for years with a few self-described nice guys. Very emotionally needy--showered girls with attention and gifts and totally creeped them out. Somehow only pined for really beautiful girls, never were interested in plain-looking girls, who were otherwise quite nice themselves. Were vastly more sensitive to rejection than other guys, gave it more significance than it seemed to me the situation deserved (most wild predators have a success rate on the hunt of less than 50%). Looking back I can only say one of these was likely AS, but the others had some traits, though were probably NT.
They were pretty beaten up by the process and made me thankful to be female and happily married.
They were pretty beaten up by the process and made me thankful to be female and happily married.
What's your point? may I ask?. You can explain and tell me if I am wrong, because I may be.
You are glad that you are female because you don't have to put up with being rejected because you give someone your undivided attention all the time or a lot of the time. You are glad that you are female because you don't have to deal with the problems that men have, as in always trying to figure out if women like you as the way you are or as a different person. You are glad that you don't have to deal with having to approach someone a certain way just to get them attracted. You are glad that you don't have to think about how to approach someone, or if you say the wrong thing, you may creep someone out.
Well if you are glad because of those reasons, you are a pretty reasonable girl, because no one has to go through all of that. But this is what men have to go through everyday, especially AS men.
Its just like if we were to see a guy we were attracted to and give him attention, but every time we do, he just gets creeped out.
Just imagine people saying this:
In order for a girl to get a guy, she must be:
-Confident
-Assertive
-Don't be overly nice
-Don't come on too strong
-Must approach them
-If she gets rejected then its her problem not the guy's problem and she needs to fix it, and dont be a baby by worrying or crying about it.
-Must act this way and that way
-Must have money
-Must have all this
-A car
-Cash
-House of own
I'm trying to defend the guys because it seems that they arent getting the truth from anywhere or anyone else on this site.
It is true, all a girl has to do is look pretty and she can get guys.
A goodlooking guy can't get anything, he has to come along with other attributes.
A woman can be broke, have no job, have no car, insecure, needy, nice, short, tall, dress like a guy, dress like a girl, but all she needs to be is pretty and she can get a guy like that.
Cool, a girl that finally gets it, and is honest about it. Now we are getting somewhere.
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