Myth Of Male Power

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Some time ago I pointed the difference between black men and black woman. And though they may live in the same environment, one is generally leaner and thinner the national average and the other much fatter. Since then it is very apparent in the gym.

I believed the difference to be the extra pressures brought on the black men. A higher level of natural selection, that would make a black woman prefer not to choose a partner who is a bit chubby, while black men less likely to be picky accept larger woman.

I did also make a comment that black people are an exaggeration regarding sexuality. He is so physically and psychologically more likely to be a alpha males. So to learn about sexual differences males and females it would be of interest to study black men

I chose to discus this because psychology interests me, regardless of political correctness. As most people often think either consciously or subconsciously, ”this is political incorrect as a result this must be is untrue”

I know of a geek in this forum not only thought this was rubbing, but in a big way. I will not forget. The geek's response would be almost acceptable if we lived in a world where we search for the truth using the best of our deductive powers. But instead we use pack-mentality to choose what seems is right, backing sides that has more power or come to a conclusion prematurely without much thinking. And if I do worse then that, I must indeed be the lowest.

Anyway,… according to this book “Myth Of Male Power” they appear to have the same idea and often makes references to black men. Because they are the extreme of what most men have to go through.

You will find these Youtube links interesting. This is the first 1 of 19
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtGwBsKgKs[/youtube]

Yes, that's an interesting book. There's another interesting book on this, "The Anatomy of Female Power". It's long out of print, but there's a pdf at: http://therawness.com/anatomy-of-female ... sion-page/

Those more interested in politically correctness, rather than independantly observed viewpoints would be well advised to move along as there's "nothing to see here"...

In video #2:
"Have we been mislead by feminists?"
"Yes. But it has not been feminist's fault. Men have not spoken up. And women cannot hear what men do not say."

".... [Feminism] articulated the shadow side of men, and the light side of women, but it neglected the shadow side of women and the light side of men. It neglected to acknowledge that each side, each sex, has the shadow side and the light side within it."

Hence his interest in the potential of men's studies. This is something I am totally down with!

The title of this book is misleading. It appears anti-feminist. That's so far from the truth. It does not seem at all politically incorrect to me at all.

Although I'm not sure what Chav's intended message is.

This Warren Farrel guy's stance is exactly what I've been thinking about over the past while... Dang, another book to add to my to-read list.

Great link, thanks Chav. I saw looked at 19 parts and was like, yikes. Now, I can't wait to listen to it all.

I've picked up on that, by observing black couples in my aera, as they walk down the street.

I have question please. Is this a thread to blame women for all of the bad things that happen to men in life? Because this is the impression I am getting.

To better answer your question, I would highly suggest listening to the linked video series.
It's astounding. Even if you decide it's all nonsense, it's still another perspective to be aware of.

I listened to the video before I posted my comment. I will listen to it again to see what I missed. Oh it's a series! I didn't know that.

I just listened to the whole dang thing....
And oh my lord it covers everything. I couldn't lift my jaw off the floor. One perspective after another after another gets dumped on it's head. The world is upside down and I'm trying not to hurl, I'm so dizzy.
Crazy compelling.

I am dying of curiosity to hear some womens' take on it, if they manage to listen through, say, 1/4th of it at least (....although the really crazy stuff gets brought up in the end... The beginning is more like just a lead-in...)

I'm listening to the author of this book right now - 4th or 19, what he's saying is that men's reality is a blind spot - and not because women are doing anything wrong but rather that men simply don't speak up. Part of this is likely genetic and how we tend to grapple with things, the other part is how possible 'masculist' guys would be treated - especially by other men.

Yeah, I definitely like this interview a lot. Then again though there are even female authors out there saying similar things. I think a lot of this stuff we've essentially known all along about our circumstance/condition but its very difficult to accurately compare ourselves to other groups that we simply haven't had the experience of living as.

One other thing you may find very interesting - there was a thread about a guy who went to zero testosterone (may have been a while back), someone else posted a link to an interview with a woman who had an operation to become male, and her experiences were loaded with the same kinds of revelations that this interview has.

In essence though I really like this guys approach in that this is about ending the blame game. The blame game brings inequality by expecting redistributive justice or reparative injustice when the whole goal and what's ultimately needed - especially in relationships - is a proper understanding of how each gender sees things, what they experience, why they do what they do, and what he talked about with feminism pointing out the bright side of women and the dark side of men but not the bright side of men nor the dark side of women - any knowledge gap like that comes to the detriment of both sexes equally. Hopefully the more this perspective gets out there the more the dialog can be stabilized into much more thorough and accurate analysis of the human condition across race and gender.

I agree with somethings and disagree with some other things.

I definitely agree that women should be drafted or required to register for the selective services if men are. I'm a vet and proud of it.

However when I was divorced, my ex husband had the house because I did not want to mess with the maintenance and cost of the upkeep.

We had joint custody of our children.

I worked harder and longer than he did. And I have always spent more money to care for our children than he ever has.

We had a huge argument over this because he wanted to claim our children on his tax return. I proved by far to be spending more money for their care so of course I claimed them on my tax return.

I also spent more time taking care of them than he ever wanted to spend with them.

He got a new wife and step-kids and suddenly our kids were not allowed to visit their father in his own house for many years. Which devastated our children. I did not have to poison our children towards their father, he did it himself.

But anyway, yes, men are treated unfairly in certain situations and definitely they are under a great deal of pressure and expectations.

But the traditional roles of men and women have been changing. And some of this does not apply to many people like this man says it does in his video series.

I would have no problem working and supporting a husband while he stays home with the kids because that's exactly what I did when I was married the second time and my husband became to ill (with leukemia) to work.

I have to say he did a great job for someone being so ill.

That's all I have to say right now.

Taupey

I think what he's getting around to though - there's literally no blame to be had. Stage one coupling was survival, each gender's roles and responsibilities were also survival. We're simply at this point of time excavating different things and hitting on more issues that need to be address as our culture realizes that it has either over-reached in one direction or paid too little attention in another.

I figured this would happen 99%. The author of the book pointed out that men are prejudice against men in general. Specially true at war time. Speaking for myself, maybe it doesn't matter that no one changes, I just want everyone to see things as they are. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happy so long as there are a majority of NTs.

Why can't NT's become aware of, and then propel, a social revolution?
I really don't think people with AS have the monopoly on objectivity. It's all about awareness - before I listened to this video, I hadn't perceived a fraction of these ideas. But now I do, since I've been made aware.
NT's will be no different. The only thing that would practically get in the way are fear, investment, and lack of awareness. The prior two, IMO, don't have any special association with NT's.

I don't think the worlds collective delusion start and end with religion. I think Orwell also had much to say about also.