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10 Aug 2010, 10:35 am

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I understand you only see the small part of the picture* you wish to see but I'm not exactly a big fan of taking myth over the facts.



In point of fact, I put fact before myth. In fact, I am only interested in facts and not in suppositions, guesses and wishful thinking, which is why I see very little good in the world.

I pay attention to the details (where both God and the Devil live). I tend to ignore the so-called "big picture" which is a mental construct and not a fact.

Here is the deal: you look at the big picture and I will pay attention to the picky little details.

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In some cases even, the use of such phrases as "you need to see the big picture" is along a similar line of "it's for the greater 'good'". I see it as a way for people to justify the actions of those who are plainly wrong yet do not wish to admit it for whatever reasons of their own.



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10 Aug 2010, 10:50 am

ruveyn wrote:
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I understand you only see the small part of the picture* you wish to see but I'm not exactly a big fan of taking myth over the facts.



In point of fact, I put fact before myth. In fact, I am only interested in facts and not in suppositions, guesses and wishful thinking, which is why I see very little good in the world.

I pay attention to the details (where both God and the Devil live). I tend to ignore the so-called "big picture" which is a mental construct and not a fact.

Here is the deal: you look at the big picture and I will pay attention to the picky little details.

ruveyn


You're continuing the fictitious storyline and deliberate neglect of including all information and facts. You're creating a myth of what occurred that is contrary to the reality of the full story. My point is that YOU'RE MISSING THE DETAILS and instead only focusing on select parts of the report as picked out by your garbage news source.


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10 Aug 2010, 10:50 am

Mother Teresa's "big picture" was the starving child directly in front of her at any given moment and she gave her full attention to that detail. As I have heard it said:

"It is far better to do one thing well than to do many things badly" ... or to end up getting shot.


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10 Aug 2010, 10:59 am

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I understand you only see the small part of the picture* you wish to see but I'm not exactly a big fan of taking myth over the facts.



In point of fact, I put fact before myth. In fact, I am only interested in facts and not in suppositions, guesses and wishful thinking, which is why I see very little good in the world.

I pay attention to the details (where both God and the Devil live). I tend to ignore the so-called "big picture" which is a mental construct and not a fact.

Here is the deal: you look at the big picture and I will pay attention to the picky little details.

ruveyn


You're continuing the fictitious storyline and deliberate neglect of including all information and facts. You're creating a myth of what occurred that is contrary to the reality of the full story. My point is that YOU'RE MISSING THE DETAILS and instead only focusing on select parts of the report as picked out by your garbage news source.


Your source doesn't paint the picture any prettier for the justification of the actions of the Muslims who executed those people. EVEN if those people were missionaries and EVEN if they were, as Exclavius said in a different way, brainwashing them into another religion, did they deserve to die EVEN if the law of that land says such actions are permissible? If the law of the land is wrong, it is not right to follow it. Those who do follow it are criminals, so the executioners are criminals.



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10 Aug 2010, 11:04 am

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... so the executioners are criminals.


Not in the eyes of pluralists if the deceased were not pluralists.


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10 Aug 2010, 11:12 am

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... so the executioners are criminals.


Not in the eyes of pluralists if the deceased were not pluralists.


Well, perhaps such pluralists would gain some new insight from living in such countries which operate under Sharia law. Remind them that they must never place anything on top of a Koran, they need to clip their nails in a certain fashion, women need to cover up, women also must be "circumcised" by removing or mutilating the clitoris so as to make them unable to enjoy sex naturally, oh and proselytizers must be executed for spreading a religion other than their particular one. When those pluralists get killed for some random violation, then perhaps other pluralists would give a damn finally.



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10 Aug 2010, 11:22 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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... so the executioners are criminals.


Not in the eyes of pluralists if the deceased were not pluralists.


Well, perhaps such pluralists would gain some new insight from living in such countries which operate under Sharia law ...


I am not in any way defending them, just drawing attention to their lack of concern about what happened as it actually serves their agenda:

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From: "President Declares 'Freedom at War with Fear'"
Office of the Press Secretary, September 20, 2001
Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
United States Capitol, Washington, D.C., 9:00 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:
... Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make: Either you are with us [who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom], or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.)
... This is not, however, just America's fight. And what is at stake is not just America's freedom. This is the world's fight. This is civilization's fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom ...


However, and in response to the complaints of others, the shooters also will eventually be put to death in order to serve that same agenda.


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10 Aug 2010, 11:56 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

In some cases even, the use of such phrases as "you need to see the big picture" is along a similar line of "it's for the greater 'good'". I see it as a way for people to justify the actions of those who are plainly wrong yet do not wish to admit it for whatever reasons of their own.


There is no Greater Good. There is my good, your good and his good.

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10 Aug 2010, 12:06 pm

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ruveyn's article is very one-sided and neglects to cover much of the story as how it was covered by my link. In fact, ruveyn's article doesn't even mention that the group is associated with a larger Christian umbrella group; it only mentions that the Taliban claimed credit for the murder and said they were Christians trying to convert people.


It is not my news source. It was A.P. a widely used news distribution network. If you don't like A.P. use another source more to your liking.

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10 Aug 2010, 12:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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ruveyn's article is very one-sided and neglects to cover much of the story as how it was covered by my link. In fact, ruveyn's article doesn't even mention that the group is associated with a larger Christian umbrella group; it only mentions that the Taliban claimed credit for the murder and said they were Christians trying to convert people.


It is not my news source. It was A.P. a widely used news distribution network. If you don't like A.P. use another source more to your liking.

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And I did. The Associated Press is about on par with a public defender as to how well they do their job.


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10 Aug 2010, 1:25 pm

No bad deed shall go unnoticed topic

The Taliban claimed responsibility for ending the lives of 10 unarmed people.

A detailed fact.


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10 Aug 2010, 2:24 pm

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The Taliban claimed responsibility for ending the lives of 10 unarmed people.

A detailed fact.


I claim responsibility for killing that corrupt scum Ted Stevens.

Just because you claim responsibility for something doesn't mean that the actions is yours to own.


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10 Aug 2010, 2:32 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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In some cases even, the use of such phrases as "you need to see the big picture" is along a similar line of "it's for the greater 'good'". I see it as a way for people to justify the actions of those who are plainly wrong yet do not wish to admit it for whatever reasons of their own.


There is no Greater Good. There is my good, your good and his good.

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I'm not arguing with you there. However, I'm saying that rulers have used such an excuse to justify horrendous actions, as long as the outcome is considered "good" or supposedly "better for everyone".



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11 Aug 2010, 8:25 am

skafather84 wrote:
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No bad deed shall go unnoticed topic

The Taliban claimed responsibility for ending the lives of 10 unarmed people.

A detailed fact.


I claim responsibility for killing that corrupt scum Ted Stevens.

Just because you claim responsibility for something doesn't mean that the actions is yours to own.


Doublespeak topic

Maybe Taliban wannabes. Spread the terror.


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11 Aug 2010, 10:02 am

skafather84 wrote:
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ruveyn's article is very one-sided and neglects to cover much of the story as how it was covered by my link. In fact, ruveyn's article doesn't even mention that the group is associated with a larger Christian umbrella group; it only mentions that the Taliban claimed credit for the murder and said they were Christians trying to convert people.


It is not my news source. It was A.P. a widely used news distribution network. If you don't like A.P. use another source more to your liking.

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And I did. The Associated Press is about on par with a public defender as to how well they do their job.


Agreed. AP and Reuters are the media tool of the corporate establishment, they are not independent of each other, and do not offer alternatives. They both essentially belong to and are controlled by the Rothschilds. So obviously there will be an anti-muslim bent in everything that they put out. Same as with the Israel issues in the press.