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10 Aug 2010, 10:47 am

The Obama administration has asked Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allies to consider criminal charges against Julian Assange for his Afghan war leaks. Philip Shenon reports.

The Obama administration is pressing Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allied Western governments to consider opening criminal investigations of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and to severely limit his nomadic travels across international borders, American officials say.

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Let's hear it for the continuing fascist regime of fear.


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10 Aug 2010, 11:29 am

skafather84 wrote:
The Obama administration has asked Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allies to consider criminal charges against Julian Assange for his Afghan war leaks. Philip Shenon reports.

The Obama administration is pressing Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allied Western governments to consider opening criminal investigations of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and to severely limit his nomadic travels across international borders, American officials say.

Continued at:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... wikileaks/

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Let's hear it for the continuing fascist regime of fear.


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The Internet/www has opened a large door which can never be shut (my view).

Some Americans view the Iraq War (of Bush, Jr.) as unjustified; many Americans view the Afghanistan War (of Bush, Jr.) as justified due to 09-11-2001.

There is the question as to how long should a modern war continue.

Most persons who have looked at the question believe that Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years.

Would it be possible to decide to end a war if a war is not needed?

If a war has no good basis, is it wrong to point that out?

The TV anchor, Walter Cronkite, asked the very basic question as to why the Vietnam War was continuing and eventually, under Richard Nixon, the Vietnam War was honorably ended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cronkite

Honorably = no politicians were too embarrassed that much one way or the other with an honorable ending of it all (my view today).



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10 Aug 2010, 11:58 am

This is an absolutely disgusting attempt to destroy transparency and silence any facts inconvenient to the regime.

Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two is equal to four. Once that is granted, all else follows.


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10 Aug 2010, 5:59 pm

Politically, I'd describe this as a "blunder", it just makes it look like the military has something really embarrassing to hide, plus it looks petty trying to stick a charge to this guy basically in revenge. A few weeks ago I read an opinion peace posted to the Daily Caller blog calling for "cyber-warfare" to be used to take down wikileaks, the comments and reviews were overwhelmingly negative even from that audience, which really says something about the bad PR that will result from this, to say nothing of the moral/legal issues.


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10 Aug 2010, 6:10 pm

pgd wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
The Obama administration has asked Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allies to consider criminal charges against Julian Assange for his Afghan war leaks. Philip Shenon reports.

The Obama administration is pressing Britain, Germany, Australia, and other allied Western governments to consider opening criminal investigations of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and to severely limit his nomadic travels across international borders, American officials say.

Continued at:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... wikileaks/

___________________________________________________________________________________________

Let's hear it for the continuing fascist regime of fear.


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The Internet/www has opened a large door which can never be shut (my view).

Some Americans view the Iraq War (of Bush, Jr.) as unjustified; many Americans view the Afghanistan War (of Bush, Jr.) as justified due to 09-11-2001.

There is the question as to how long should a modern war continue.

Most persons who have looked at the question believe that Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years.

Would it be possible to decide to end a war if a war is not needed?

If a war has no good basis, is it wrong to point that out?

The TV anchor, Walter Cronkite, asked the very basic question as to why the Vietnam War was continuing and eventually, under Richard Nixon, the Vietnam War was honorably ended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cronkite

Honorably = no politicians were too embarrassed that much one way or the other with an honorable ending of it all (my view today).


It would be the same if people hadn't been dumbed down into reality and procedure TV show zombies. Most of the people will be too disconnected to care about what goes on in the world and the rest will imagine it's like an episode of 24 where there are definite good guys and bad guys (and guess which way the slant goes).


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11 Aug 2010, 10:58 am

From the view of the establishment, all independent news should be illegal. Unless it is allowed to filter through the bureaucracy of AP or Reuters, it likely isn't in the best interest of keeping the current opinion of the day in line with what that establishment wants to be the opinion of that day.

wikileaks and all alternative news sources, including a good portion of the internet will soon be under ferocious attack. This is just the scape goat that they've been looking for to begin the war.



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11 Aug 2010, 11:29 am

pgd wrote:
There is the question as to how long should a modern war continue. Most persons who have looked at the question believe that Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years.

That's because he's a fictional character portrayed by, like, the greatest actor alive as a means of supplying the populace with a Goldstein of sorts. :P


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11 Aug 2010, 11:58 am

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From the view of the establishment, all independent news should be illegal. Unless it is allowed to filter through the bureaucracy of AP or Reuters, it likely isn't in the best interest of keeping the current opinion of the day in line with what that establishment wants to be the opinion of that day.

wikileaks and all alternative news sources, including a good portion of the internet will soon be under ferocious attack. This is just the scape goat that they've been looking for to begin the war.

Hey, AP and Reuters are decent sources. I am surprised Reuters hasn't supported WIkileaks, given that it was their reporter who got killed in that helicopter raid. And remember that the Wikileaks files were published in the New York Times, the Guardian, and Der Spiegel, all reasonably mainstream sources.

Also, WIkileaks isn't a news source per se... it is a venue specifically for the publication of classified government documents, and they know that their actions will not be viewed favorably by many governments. That is why Mr. Assange has always taken the very wise precaution of never staying in one place too long.


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11 Aug 2010, 1:06 pm

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Also, WIkileaks isn't a news source per se... it is a venue specifically for the publication of classified government documents, and they know that their actions will not be viewed favorably by many governments. That is why Mr. Assange has always taken the very wise precaution of never staying in one place too long.


They leak classified documents from private industry as well.


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11 Aug 2010, 1:22 pm

reporting of classified documents.... uncovering truth to expose the existing ignorance on a topic or issue. Doesn't really matter if that ignorance is planned or not, as in the case with what wikileaks reports on.

Hrm... no.. that doesn't sound ANYTHING like news does it?
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