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22 Jan 2011, 12:19 am

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So what can be done? How can we refute so called proof of conspiracies? If such paranoia continues, this will mean there are safety concerns that can be ignored. Mistrust of basic government structure means that further conspiracies will crop up. And some even think if conspiracy theory is ignored, it will also go away.


For me personally looking at a single event, say 9/11 for example is not going far enough.

To get a better idea of what has really happened I find it better to examine what else is going on in the world.

I find the best place to start is with the history of the Illuminati to try and get an idea of how tight a grip the Illuminati has on our financial systems across the world, which as a result has also given them control of the political parties and media as well. Any stories they don't want heard are most likely not to be heard at all. Stories they want people to hear, are likely to be pushed by the media.

The main theme of this film is about the eventual plans for global government, but if you take a look at the first half an hour or so of it you get an idea of the financial hold the Rothschilds have on the world.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho[/youtube]

A good documentary which helps to show how biased the media is. You need to bare in mind whilst watching it, that this covers only a small fraction of the cases around the world when certain stories were being shown whilst others were ignored. Not everyone buys into the bullshit on the media and i am not suggesting anyone here believes everything they are told, but on the whole, they are intentionally dishonest,.

and if you ask me, the emergence of pop culture and the sexing up of society both being pushed forward, made it quite easy for a lot of people to easily ignore some of the critical events around the world.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lYGyIaK80[/youtube]

I posted this before, but will jsut post it agian and sum it up. It is a look at why America really benefited from 9/11 and without it they would have fit financial disaster. I have a feeling that some of the info in this video was not reported on the news, but i do not know for certain for myself. if anyone knows please say.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMkXA6kqNsw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xQso_zgris&feature=related[/youtube]

Another topic of great debate.; fluoride. People argue it is not dangerous but research has shown that is accumulated quite easily in the pineal gland. the pineal gland, as i believe is responsible for producing melatonin and helps regulate lots of mental and bodily functions. if it is not working as it should be, it is likely that it is making people care less and leading them not to question things as often.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZUYIq-X0g[/youtube]

Why they might all be doing this? Well if you want to know what I really think, they are doing it because of ancient religious beliefs. Ancient Lucafarian or Pagan beliefs depending on how you would like to look at it. They see themselves as the chosen ones of Earth and want to be able to dominate the earth, and possibly depopulate much of the planet so that they can enjoy it for themselves unopposed.

This hour talk outlines what they may want to do in regards to depopulation:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY[/youtube]

And this is a look at their ancient beliefs and the way in which they have incorpoated it into society today. I have issues with this series called the labyrinth of truth myself, such as the "evolution hoax" and "demon face" part but it holds a lot of truth about the ancient pagan / lucifarian beliefs from thousands of years ago,

This is what makes me realise there is a small group of people dictating what goes on in the world.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8INGSHTkojI[/youtube]

Edit: in regards to flouride and many other chemicals designed to dumb us down, it all relates back to us being highly spiritual beings and the illuminati know of this knowledge, and want to keep the realm universal conciousness to themselves.

Nobody has to take a thing i say seriously but it is a worth looking back at ancient history to understand the way society is today so that you can put modern events into context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJiCU6Jw0Co[/youtube]

Maybe i am crazy but then again maybe i realised some things that most of the world has been unaware of. no harm in you guys looking into any of it


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22 Jan 2011, 2:41 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq-mZkZcqmI[/youtube]

The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volu ... Nano-1.pdf

Quite a lot of papers on this page:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.h ... l_Articles

People mock these because they are not accepted by the majority of mainstream media scientists. There are plenty of scientists / engineers who know the facts, but their voices are not heard because the media does not like talking about all the evidence for nano thermite and instead chooses to help create stigma amongst some of the public towards any conspiracy.

Edit: An interview which aired yesterday
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-EgKTwh7uw[/youtube]


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22 Jan 2011, 12:15 pm

Krazy Konspiracy Krapdoodle.

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22 Jan 2011, 12:29 pm

That is fine with me then :wink:


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22 Jan 2011, 1:22 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:
Another topic of great debate.; fluoride. People argue it is not dangerous but research has shown that is accumulated quite easily in the pineal gland. the pineal gland, as i believe is responsible for producing melatonin and helps regulate lots of mental and bodily functions. if it is not working as it should be, it is likely that it is making people care less and leading them not to question things as often.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY[/youtube]

PatrickNeville wrote:
And this is a look at their ancient beliefs and the way in which they have incorpoated it into society today. I have issues with this series called the labyrinth of truth myself, such as the "evolution hoax" and "demon face" part but it holds a lot of truth about the ancient pagan / lucifarian beliefs from thousands of years ago,

This is what makes me realise there is a small group of people dictating what goes on in the world.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8INGSHTkojI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Babylon was never influent to the point of imposing "one language", if you want to found one language it would be more that 50000 years ago. No secret group could have last the thousands of years since Babylon either.
The only group ever called "illuminati" only existed somewhen in the 18th century, and have not been mentionned since then. Also, far from being a sinister group, they were working toward the enlightment values. (aka; what had lead to human rights. no group wanting to dominate everything would bring those.)

The common points between religions and mythology is well know since Jung and is likelly the results from common structures in human brains. Human brains that also want to give intends to everything, bringing conspiracy theory to give sinister intends to random events. (It's more reassuring overall.)

Also, comparing the pictures of the Babel Tower (who never existed) and the European Union headquarters is purelly manipulative.



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23 Jan 2011, 2:04 am

PatrickNeville wrote:
Another topic of great debate.; fluoride. People argue it is not dangerous but research has shown that is accumulated quite easily in the pineal gland. the pineal gland, as i believe is responsible for producing melatonin and helps regulate lots of mental and bodily functions. if it is not working as it should be, it is likely that it is making people care less and leading them not to question things as often.


(note: as for the mercury containing vaccines, i am aware it is supposed to have been disproven but i am not entirely sure on the facts about it)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrXrE8AmIc&sns=fb[/youtube]

“50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation” by Dr. Paul Connett http://fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.pdf ;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSZp0eRVVNk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_Mg0xCvcM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

"Bottled water contains disinfection byproducts, fertilizer residue, and pain medication http://www.ewg.org/reports/BottledWater ... estigation

"Fluoride in Water Linked to Lower IQ in Children" http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20101221/pl_usnw/DC20898

EXCITOTOXINS: The Taste That Kills "Discover the many and hazards of chemicals added to processed foods and how they damage your health."
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 501310962#


PatrickNeville wrote:
And this is a look at their ancient beliefs and the way in which they have incorpoated it into society today. I have issues with this series called the labyrinth of truth myself, such as the "evolution hoax" and "demon face" part but it holds a lot of truth about the ancient pagan / lucifarian beliefs from thousands of years ago,

This is what makes me realise there is a small group of people dictating what goes on in the world.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8INGSHTkojI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Babylon was never influent to the point of imposing "one language", if you want to found one language it would be more that 50000 years ago.No secret group could have last the thousands of years since Babylon either.
The only group ever called "illuminati" only existed somewhen in the 18th century, and have not been mentionned since then. Also, far from being a sinister group, they were working toward the enlightment values. (aka; what had lead to human rights. no group wanting to dominate everything would bring those.)

The common points between religions and mythology is well know since Jung and is likelly the results from common structures in human brains. Human brains that also want to give intends to everything, bringing conspiracy theory to give sinister intends to random events. (It's more reassuring overall.)

Also, comparing the pictures of the Babel Tower (who never existed) and the European Union headquarters is purelly manipulative.[/quote]

Stuff the babel tower, of course i am sceptic about it itself because, as you kind of mentioned, the human might is brilliant at being able to link things by association.

I reckon the group has lasted that long due to major similiarities between ancient Pagan religions and the way that it has been incorporated into Christianity.

It is worth checking out the rest of the series to decide for yourself what is imaginative "linking" and random occurrences - and what is a clear link between the people in power today and ancient beliefs. Some of it probably is but it is worth examining the entire thing.

The Illuminati are still around but obviously do not go calling themselves by that these days. They just act as normal people. Whether you want to call them the Illuminati or not is up to you, but it there is definitely one family dominating the entire wealth of the world and influencing events.

They are the Rothschilds, Rockerfellers and incorporated amongst several other families.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Who-Is-The-Rothschild-Family

The same families who most likely control all the money missing from the worlds most arguably fraudulent bank
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o[/youtube]

The same families who control the media and wanted an excuse to invade the middle east and a way of keeping a hold of their strong financial powers

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUXnDKSFU94[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMkXA6kqNsw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKsf1rI4L0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSlGsQnuvRE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skjgimM4Gtc[/youtube]


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